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What constitutes a Classic or Vintage bicycle?

Old 09-17-22, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
A bike is classic or vintage if replacing one of the components with NOS costs more than the entire bike cost new.

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I thought it wouldn’t be an expensive hobby, before I got hooked 🤪
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What he said

Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
it is up to each of us to define classic and vintage. My definition is different than others. I don’t think it matters. If you consider your bike classic or vintage or both, great. Don’t let my definition get in the way.
I have a 1980's era Scott MTB that I consider neither classic nor vintage. It's awesome on mountain trails though.
I have a 2002 Eddy Merckx Team SC, Easton Scandium tubing, handmade in the original Belgium factory, when Eddy was still in charge day to day and before he sold to a holding company. I consider it classic, I think most people would, but not vintage. To me, vintage features a lot of technology that's been obsoleted. Like I would consider a 1967 Camaro classic but not vintage. I would consider a 1976 Triumph TR-6 to be vintage but possibly not classic.
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Old 10-13-22, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phile View Post
so i gotta ask, how many times were you successfully convinced?

For me, at least three times: a 1967 Peug PX-10, a 1952 Rudge Aero Special, and a 1982 Trek 720.

I could be additionally swayed by an Urago, Mercian, or Bob Jackson ...
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Old 10-14-22, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Removing already installed hoods is dedication for a goal.

Ha, a 3+ year old revived thread about c&v pops up so my interest gets me to click on it. I then see eja's frame and parts and wonder 'why are the shifter hoods removed?...thats a lot of work just for a picture' Then I see my post from over 3 years ago.
At least I am consistent.
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Old 10-14-22, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
At least I am consistent.
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At least I am consistent.
QED, amirite?

Just a funny double-post. Nothing personal.
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Old 10-14-22, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
QED, amirite?

Just a funny double-post. Nothing personal.
ha! well thats some meta humor right there. time to do some cleanup.
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Old 10-14-22, 08:04 AM
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x=y
Where x is the maximum allowable tyre width and y is the maximum number of teeth on the largest cog.
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I consider my two 1990 Cannondales to be classics, but I doubt most here would agree.

One is the crit model road bike all 105 stuff. I rode it probably 100k miles or so, raced it way back in the day, and did an ultra light tour camping and cooking from San Diego to Pensacola in more recent years. Some of the parts are no longer original, but most are other than the fork that was the victim of a crash and the back wheel that I want to get around to replacing with something close to suitable. Oh and the rims... The terrible wolbers didn't last long and were replaced by Mavic open pros which I will stay with. Lots of comments/attention from other old timers along the way when I ride it. I'd like to get it back to fully original other than the rims (I just feel like the open pros belong on the bike).

The other is a mountain bike and all original except that it gets swapped between drop bars and the original flat bar setup. I have done a mixed surface tour in it and like the crit bike it attracts many comments from old timers who fondly remember riding one just like it.
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Originally Posted by macstuff View Post
Classic;
Judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.

Vintage;
Of old, recognized, and enduring interest, importance, or quality - Older than 20 years

Antique;
100 Years or older
Probably the best definition so far.
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Old 12-25-22, 09:42 AM
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Three of my bikes are more than 25 years old. I don't care what other people call them.
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Old 12-25-22, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
x=y
Where x is the maximum allowable tyre width and y is the maximum number of teeth on the largest cog.
x = y - 3
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Old 12-26-22, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Inusuit View Post
Three of my bikes are more than 25 years old. I don't care what other people call them.
I agree.
My 1988 Trek 560 is about to turn 35 years old. Is it a vintage or a classic? It looks like something from the bottom of a dumpster. I am about to mess with it by getting it powder coated a non-original color, so it doesn't look like the wreck it is.
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Old 01-08-23, 09:02 PM
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This leaves me confused. I have a definitely vintage bike (1980 Trek 510), but it's set up as a 3 speed townie. I have two bikes by Peter Mooney with paint inspired by the bikes of my youth, but they were made in 2000 and 2002 with Brifterized Ergo 10 of the period.

To tell the truth, I find myself here because current bicycle culture seems an alien thing to me filled with ugly bikes, watts, zwift, and strava. I find none of this inspirational.

Do I have a home?
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Do I have a home?
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Old 01-13-23, 05:51 AM
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Classic 90's GT aero edge

My new favorite bike is now done.
craiglist find a year ago. New paint, added stuff i had in box bike is fast rides well 28c tires very happy.

1996? GT aero edge.
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Old 01-14-23, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
This leaves me confused. I have a definitely vintage bike (1980 Trek 510), but it's set up as a 3 speed townie. I have two bikes by Peter Mooney with paint inspired by the bikes of my youth, but they were made in 2000 and 2002 with Brifterized Ergo 10 of the period.

To tell the truth, I find myself here because current bicycle culture seems an alien thing to me filled with ugly bikes, watts, zwift, and strava. I find none of this inspirational.

Do I have a home?


Absolutely, one thing that seems to sometimes not get enough cred is some KOF builders, Mooney being one of the greats and never a bad call.

Welcome aboard, glad you found us, you're in the right place.

We need pics of all, you can upload them to your album/homepage.

And you can post them here after 5 posts X 2 days for 10.


I'm with you 100%,

New Strawberry with Campy 11 speed.

Full custom, lugged, all steel.

The old and the new, the ying and the yang, the good, bad and the ugly, you decide.




And my daily driver, 40 plus year old Merz custom with Campy 9 speed, rides like a dream, as if it was made for me but wasn't


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Old 01-15-23, 03:49 PM
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The beasts:





The serious bike:



There's also a beer can Marin I did a few time trials on long ago, but it's somewhat inappropriate for C&V.
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@MooneyBloke



Those PM's are wonderful and while not a Frek fan we all know they are good bikes.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
@MooneyBloke



Those PM's are wonderful and while not a Frek fan we all know they are good bikes.
Now I have a sudden urge to change that "T" to an "F".
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
Now I have a sudden urge to change that "T" to an "F".
BQ has a contributor that built a Frek with well done livery and has been featured a couple of times there.
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lugged vs non-lugged forks and frames, friction vs indexed shifting, rim vs disc brakes ...

gotta add one more; cotter pin vs square taper cranks

Surly still offers one bike, complete or frameset, with or for cantilever or V rim brakes and having downtube shifter bosses.

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7 speed and below are classic
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
This leaves me confused. I have a definitely vintage bike (1980 Trek 510), but it's set up as a 3 speed townie. I have two bikes by Peter Mooney with paint inspired by the bikes of my youth, but they were made in 2000 and 2002 with Brifterized Ergo 10 of the period.

To tell the truth, I find myself here because current bicycle culture seems an alien thing to me filled with ugly bikes, watts, zwift, and strava. I find none of this inspirational.

Do I have a home?
I don't relate to many posts here. I use a Kona Sutra which allows me to use it for trails, errands, and short tours. What some think or use their bike for is wonderful, but unimportant for me. And. what I define as a tour is what i decide it is....LOL!!
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Originally Posted by romanlotus View Post
7 speed and below are classic
I am smiling as I write this but the 8-speed freewheel should be given credit for bringing out 130mm dropout spacing. :-)

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