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A stunning mystery bike on San Fran CL

Old 05-12-21, 05:28 AM
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A stunning mystery bike on San Fran CL

This beautiful bike was posted on the Classic Rendezvous list. The filing on this no name frame is exquisite! Whoever made it probably back in the late 70's did a remarkable job. The lugs are beautifully shaped and immaculately thinned. The fillet brazed fastback style was extremely well done. I'm surprised this bicycle for $795 wasn't sold in the 1st 10 minutes it was posted. Whoever the builder was is absolutely top tier. The frame alone is worth twice the asking price. As a fussy frame builder, I am really impressed with it.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik...316855351.html
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Old 05-12-21, 05:34 AM
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Old 05-12-21, 05:55 AM
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unworthy1 posted this one to the Ebay / Craigslist thread, it is a beauty. If it were close to me, I would have looked at it.
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Old 05-12-21, 06:33 AM
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Bruce Gordon?
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Old 05-12-21, 07:28 AM
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It is a tad too small for me, thank goodness! The joinery reminds me of Tom Ritchey's work like this head lug from an Annapurna. I've heard these called "faux lugs" and assumed that it was fillet brazing filed to resemble lugs. Regardless, that is one beautiful bike and a great buy!
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Old 05-12-21, 07:31 AM
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I thought I read somewhere that Ritchey made a few lugged frames early on in his career.....?

Or am I mis-remembering something else entirely?

Definitely looks "American" to me
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Old 05-12-21, 07:38 AM
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Reminds me a LOT of this cluster that @randyjawa posted potentially as a Roberts: Fastback Seat Stays

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Old 05-12-21, 09:25 AM
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I saw that one. The size is just about right for me (well, the TT is a little short), and it's beautiful, but I don't have $800 to spend and the Mrs. would have me committed if I bought any more bikes. I briefly - VERY briefly - toyed with the idea of it as an Eroica machine, but then realized I don't really want to do the Eroica anyway.

I THINK that the lugs have just been carefully filed, which really is a beautiful look. They look more fluid and blend into the tubes so much more attractively.
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Old 05-12-21, 09:27 AM
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I reached out to this seller and have not heard back. This was a few days ago. Just a couple questions about the frameset; serial numbers? any markings or imprints?

Craigslist hijinks?? Who knows.
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Old 05-12-21, 09:40 AM
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What's the little post on the head tube for, Is it for a light? I don't think I have seen that before.
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Old 05-12-21, 09:47 AM
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What's the little post on the head tube for, Is it for a light? I don't think I have seen that before.
It is a pump peg I think. Usually they are more pointed though? Very elegant.
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Folks on the CR list (which is also where I saw this and then copied the CL link to "Looking for one of these?" thread) had speculated it was an Early Ritchey and then further speculations were maybe a "Palo Alto" model that Ritchey made for sale in that shop (on University in PA) and they were also sold at a shop in Los Altos.

Another thought was it may have been made by a Ritchey contemporary who was also a legendary builder with skills that rivaled (some might say even exceeded) TR's: namely Peter Johnson.(or correction: MICHAEL Johnson?)

I have no idea but yeah it's a surprise this hasn't been snapped up already but it sure WILL be!

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Old 05-12-21, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bargo68 View Post
I reached out to this seller and have not heard back. This was a few days ago. Just a couple questions about the frameset; serial numbers? any markings or imprints?

Craigslist hijinks?? Who knows.
....I recognize the style of the ad, and if it's the guy I'm thinking about, he focuses on nice bikes, and sells them pretty regularly on the Bay Area CL. AT first, I was thinking Michael Johnson, who was making and selling frames in this area in that time period. But so was Ritchey, and the style of the fastback seat cluster is a little different from the Michael Johnson frames I've seen, and the one I own.

One offs like this can be hard to ID without provenance. Kind of discouraging if it hasn't already sold at that price.
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Old 05-12-21, 09:57 AM
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The seatstay treatment looks different, but the lugs are pretty similar to my Michael Johnson.


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^^^^ Seat post binder is a little different. Does yours have the upward point at the front-center of the seatpost end of the seat lug?
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^^^^ Seat post binder is a little different. Does yours have the upward point at the front-center of the seatpost end of the seat lug?

It's not raised raised as much.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Reminds me a LOT of this cluster that @randyjawa posted potentially as a Roberts: Fastback Seat Stays

-Kurt
+1 That thought went through my mind the moment I saw the bike. Where is the serial number stamped?





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Talked to the seller. He purchased at an estate sale. Peter Johnson and Roberts came as a possible, but he had no one to ask. Says the bb has no number.

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fairly local and tempting, but am saving pennies for a custom
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Bruce Gordon?
You may be on to something.

Here's a late 70's Gordon, DiNucci may be possible too?





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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
You may be on to something.

Here's a late 70's Gordon, DiNucci may be possible too?
Bruce Gordon's builds tend to have those flat-topped, filled-in stays. Don't think so.

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Need a broker

If someone near there can broker, I壇 like to buy it. I知 in Albuquerque. Help! I値l throw in a fee.
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No number certainly kills the clues.
of course once one buys it, drop the fork hoping for a number and remove the bottom bracket hoping for some identification in there.
small chance in seat tube-
nice bike, too big for me.
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If someone near there can broker, I壇 like to buy it. I知 in Albuquerque. Help! I値l throw in a fee.
Thanks, but no thanks. It's not my size.
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Thanks, but no thanks. It's not my size.
Hmm...

I think gravelinmygears is asking for an individual near this bicycle to help them purchase and ship it to Abq. They値l also include a payment for the willing individual.
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