1980s Japanese bike with Tange Prestige tubing?
I've been tasked with finding a 1980s vintage Japanese steel road bike that is constructed from Tange Prestige. Anyone have some brands/models that come to mind? I know Panasonic and I believe Nishiki had Tange Prestige models. Other than that I'm drawing a blank. Ideas?
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Centurian, Bridgestone, Lotus and Miyata. Probably every Japanese manufacturer back then.
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Oddly, Nishiki's "Prestige" model (a pretty nice bike) did not have a Tange Prestige tubeset -- at least not the 1986 model that I had first-hand experience of. I think that was Tange Infinity, which if I remember correctly was seamed double butted.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
(Post 22062106)
Centurian, Bridgestone, Lotus and Miyata. Probably every Japanese manufacturer back then.
I'll check out Centurion and Lotus -thanks. |
Likely not what you're looking for but the Bianchi equinox was made of prestige tubing. It is a really neat cross bike.
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New NOS 59.5cm Tange #2 double butted CroMoly road bicycle lugged frame & fork
https://www.ebay.com/itm/12471106678...m=124711066780 This is a non-named frame that a now closed bike shop in the north suburbs of Chicago (RRB) had built for the shop for sale between 1995 and 2000. I bought one and in the middle of building it. Very nice frame, can't say anything about the ride as its not finished yet. He has different sizes ad colors. Also not an 80's frame. |
Off top of my head:
Centurion Prestige Bianchi Alfana Panasonic DX6000 Shogun Ninja Univega Superstrada (late model) Performance Focus (Taiwan made) Medici (US made) |
Nishiki Medalist, Champion No.1. Mine is from 1983.
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'84/'85 Specialized Allez .. good luck finding one of those :)
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May not fit your definition of Japanese but some of the Panasonic built Schwinns are Prestige. Also some of the early 90's PDG Series bikes.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e449ce3632.jpg 1987 Prologue https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8faf89ab56.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ab4f9a47b0.jpg Prologue TT https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9cce511fab.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2cc8e808cf.jpg Schwinn says these were Prestige. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bdff0c2d56.jpg Early 90's PDG Paramount |
Tange #1 and Tange #2 are not Prestige, guys. OP is looking for Prestige only.
Vintage Land Shark and Davidson road bikes (both custom builders) are made with Prestige tubing. I have had the pleasure of experience with both, and they are most definitely worth it. |
I know you’re looking for vintage, but aren’t current steel frame offerings from Soma made with Prestige?
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
(Post 22062227)
Tange #1 and Tange #2 are not Prestige, guys. OP is looking for Prestige only.
Vintage Land Shark and Davidson road bikes (both custom builders) are made with Prestige tubing. I have had the pleasure of experience with both, and they are most definitely worth it. |
If you're not hung up on the '80s criteria, a few more from the 90's:
'93 and '94 Fuji Roubaix early 90's Nishiki NFS Prestige (one on Ebay now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/nishiki-nfs...-/254291443423) Bianchi Virata Early 90's Jamis Eclipse |
I’ve read that current Soma Tange Prestige is not as good as the vintage Prestige. Maybe someone can clarify this.
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The Performance Focus, that one is tig welded.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...43e2772d76.jpg |
Originally Posted by Mr. 66
(Post 22063642)
The Performance Focus, that one is tig welded.
For OP the Panasonic made frames are some of the best examples of Tange Prestige, including the ones they made for Schwinn as the Paramount OS. |
Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
(Post 22063546)
If you're not hung up on the '80s criteria, a few more from the 90's:
'93 and '94 Fuji Roubaix early 90's Nishiki NFS Prestige (one on Ebay now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/nishiki-nfs...-/254291443423) Bianchi Virata Early 90's Jamis Eclipse |
Originally Posted by Whit51
(Post 22063610)
I’ve read that current Soma Tange Prestige is not as good as the vintage Prestige. Maybe someone can clarify this.
Short version: the classic 80's Prestige was 7/4/7 butted, whereas the current "Prestige" EDIT: Later in that thread it says SOMA uses heat treated tubing, which would seem to mean the 7/4/7 Prestige JPN rather than the plain Prestige. So it's closer to the vintage Prestige, but still with larger diameter on most models than a vintage race frame (28.6 top tube and 31.8 down tube vs 25.4 and 28.6 in 80's). |
Panasonic DX-5000 was Tange Prestige in some years. Lugged and a nice rider.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c627fccff7.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be9ae094ea.jpg |
I bought my wife a Novara Team frame & fork. Sticker says Tange Prestige. It is lugged. I'm not sure who made it for REI but it seems to be very nice.
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Have to be Japanese?
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...317540160.html Vintage Medici pro strada 58 - $700 (san rafael)image 1 of 10 |
Originally Posted by AeroGut
(Post 22064145)
Discussed in this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/framebuil...e-quality.html
Short version: the classic 80's Prestige was 7/4/7 butted, whereas the current "Prestige" EDIT: Later in that thread it says SOMA uses heat treated tubing, which would seem to mean the 7/4/7 Prestige JPN rather than the plain Prestige. So it's closer to the vintage Prestige, but still with larger diameter on most models than a vintage race frame (28.6 top tube and 31.8 down tube vs 25.4 and 28.6 in 80's). The bottom line is that Soma Prestige is the same quality of tubing but the designers chose a different set of options (possibly even somewhat customized) that were not the lightest. Lightest is not always best. Sometimes you want a little more durability or stiffness. Tange's myriad of Prestige options gave designers the flexibility to design for a particular end result. |
Originally Posted by Mr. 66
(Post 22063642)
The Performance Focus, that one is tig welded.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...43e2772d76.jpg |
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