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Old 06-13-21, 01:27 PM
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Peugeot PSN 10

Thought I'd share. New to these forums. I bought a new old stock (NOS) Peugeot PSN 10, which we have since found to have been manufactured in October 1985. It was sold in its original plastic shrinkwrap and was removed from its original shipping box for photographs. I purchased the bike unbuilt on eBay as such and had it assembled. Everything was in perfect working condition after having been stored in its box for 36 yrs.

I had a version of this bike which I purchased in 1986 while a student in Northern California. It took me on some epic rides and I never could figure out what happened to the bike after all this time. The only parts of it which I hated were the white accents: bar tape, brake hood covers ,cabling, saddle and toe straps. They only stay white for about 10 minutes after purchase and then get all grubby thereafter.

Anyway, my brand new 36 yr old bike got the following as a result: Brooks B17 saddle, Brooks bar tape, NOS Specialized Red toe straps. NOS Black Modolo Anatomic Brake Hoods and NOS Modolo black brake cabling. The original parts were all functional but white.

I have just completed my first 150 mi on my new vintage bike and it is an absolute dream in terms of ride quality and the memories it brings back. I find it as capable as any of my modern bikes.

The following took some relearning on my part after having been away for so long from this era's technology.

Downtube friction shifters: I had to keep looking down to make sure I was in the right gear especially before I stood up on the pedals

Gearing ratios. 52/42 in front and 13-21 6 gears in back. None of these are exactly granny gears for hills or steep climbs, hence the reason to stand on the pedals in the first place.

Toe clips and straps: I found indoor soccer shoes to be very helpful

Check out pics in Gallery for skolla1 Peugeot PSN 10 1985 from June 13. Working to get my 10 post to include pics in the thread in future

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Welcome to BF. I saw some of those NOS Peugeots on ebay. Sounds like a great ride. As we say around here, though, "pics or it didn't happen." Since you don't yet have 10 posts to enable you to include pics in the thread, use the "Gallery" feature.
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Thank you. Not sure how to link the gallery feature to my post but my most recent album in skolla1 Gallery: Peugeot PSN 10 1985 has the pictures

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Please upload a full drive side picture of your bike. I’ll post that, as well.
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Pic assist part II, the drive side:

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Done and thanks again. I also included some other views. I forgot to mention that the bike was marketed as Mont-Cenis and this kind of confounded the dating as it was reported through Peugeot Catalogs (US) that 1986 the term Mont-Cenis was used for PSN 10 but in 1985 it was not. The catalog (US) for 1985 is most like the bike (colors) I have. My bike "guy" who has been putting bikes/restoring together since 1971 was able to date the serial number (located on the nondriver side frame to October 1985. The bike I had in 1986 did not have Mont-Cenis on it. For a bit of history, the last time Mont-Cenis was used in the Tour de France was in 1992 étape 13 - St Gervais-Sestrières, which featured the major climbs: Saises, Cormet de Roseland, Iseran, Mont-Cenis, and Sestrier. Interestingly enough, my parents lived in Pau, France in 1992 and from their apartment balcony, I was able to see the 2nd and 3rd stage of the Tour from their apartment balcony. I saw the 13th stage on TV. Miguel Indurain won the GC that year. Claudio Chiapucci won stage 13, featuring Mont Cenis (supposed to be one of the best stages in Tour history). Trivia
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What a treat to be able to get a vintage bike like that in NOS condition. Enjoy!
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Nice score man. That Mont-Cenis is beautiful. I've always wanted one, in gold though. I have the triathlon version of that bike and it is my favorite bike to ride.
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Looks like it'd be a blast to ride. Campy drivetrain, Modolo brakeset, can't eyeball the rest.

Have a catalog scan to accompany it? And care to share how less full your bank account was after the purchase?

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Peugeot PSN 10 Super Vitus 980 Frame

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Looks like it'd be a blast to ride. Campy drivetrain, Modolo brakeset, can't eyeball the rest.
Don't forget the best part, the Super Vitus 980 frame.

I have several 1980's Peugeots made of SV 980, They ride like silk!

My 1983 PSV 10



... and my 1988 Biarritz


They ride smoother than my 1988 Chorus with a Reynolds 753 frame!

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Still enjoy riding the 1982 PSV-10. I think the Vitus 980 is very nice tubing, I was researching the tube set before buying the bike, and I read somewhere that Brian Bayless thought it was one of the best tube sets. And the French Simplex derailleurs, as well as the shifters work great. Have several sets of Simplex SJ, which are the best, but the long Simplex shifters work just fine, and don’t loosen up like Campagnolo.

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Some very nice bikes in the posts above.Sorry would have responded to all the neat responses sooner but as a new member I am limited to 5 post/24h.My bike guy ( owner of Yellow Jersey Arlington WI), who has been in the bike business since 1971 and over the years assembled/repaired or restored a ton of Peugeots including PSN 10s, specifically tells me that on his lookup of the serial number found on the non-drivetrain side of the bike the dates to October 1985.The box the bike came in from the “factory” had handwritten on it “1986”.Looking at online catalogs: in 1985, there is a version of the PSN 10 which is like mine (color scheme) but the components in the description were not quite the same.In 1986, the PSN 10 took on the name Mont-Cenis, but the color scheme of the bike (primarily yellow) was not the same, but the components on the bike match.In 1987 the catalog shows the bike in my color scheme and with matched components.I am not too concerned exactly which year it is, but the bike I had in 1986, did not have Mont-Cenis on it and was the same color scheme as the bike I have today.I have included the image from 1987 catalog in my gallery and will require a “PIC assist” from one of the more senior members of the forum. (have to get to 10 posts before pics allowed). The image goes over the bike components in detail as well as the geometry of the frame.

As for cost: bike was 900 + 125 shipping $200 for upgrades (Brooks saddle, Brooks bar tape, Modolo black anatomical brake hoods; Specialized toe straps, Black Modolo brake cables, etc). my indulgence to go down memory lane. Certainly not the most I have paid for an indulgence or a trip down memory lane

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Beautiful bike and the colour scheme is classic for the PSN 10. So nice to have a vintage bike and mint condition. Would you mind sharing the indoor soccer shoes you chose to ride on? I'm always looking for non cleated shoe options to use with steel toe clips.
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X GHOSTED.3 INDOOR SOCCER SHOES

at the Adidas website

Adidas had 40% off sale so about $50. Sole is stiff, upper is forgiving. Very sleek and allows easy entry/exit with toe clips and tightening of toe straps. Let me know if you try them.

Another option I looked into

SVB Vuelta Pro Classic Cycling Shoes

at the Steel-Vintage bike shop in Berlin

these go for about $200 and they are made for l’Eroica Vintage Bike Race. They can be used for toe clips or clipless pedal and accept toe clip cleats or look delta cleats. definitely let me know if you try these.
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thanks skolla1 nice option. The X Ghosted are a bit more expensive here in Canada but the Predator Sala shoes look nice as well.

I really thought the Puma Redon Moves would make a good cycling shoe because, well they look like cycling shoes and are also indoor court shoes but they are expensive.
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Got a gold one. One of my favorite rides. Found it locally on CL. I could not get there fast enough!
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Very Nice.
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Wow the prices in Canada must be through the roof. I just saw the Puma Redon Moves listed for $29 US and I agree they look like they fit the bill too. I was describing to my daughter the problems I was having with my cycling shoes and toe clips, and she suggested the indoor soccer shoes, The adidas work great.
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1983 psv 10

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Still enjoy riding the 1982 PSV-10. I think the Vitus 980 is very nice tubing, I was researching the tube set before buying the bike, and I read somewhere that Brian Bayless thought it was one of the best tube sets. And the French Simplex derailleurs, as well as the shifters work great. Have several sets of Simplex SJ, which are the best, but the long Simplex shifters work just fine, and don’t loosen up like Campagnolo.
Lest it be known, a number of the top left coast builders used Super Vitus 980 tubing during the early 80's. They could get it inexpensively, the tubes were accurately sized plus well finished. At least one other builder besides Bryan said it was his favorite tubing.

I got my 1983 PSV 10 as a partial bike back in 2010.



It sat fallow until I finally got around to building it up in 2017.

When I went through the BB I discovered that it was a cheap Peugeot brand with Swiss Metric threads - Left Hand Threaded Fixed Cup! Also the spindle was 121mm rather than the standard 118mm or 120mm Stronglight.

The bearing races were shot!



Fortunately I had a NOS Stronglight BB with a Swiss fixed cup and a 120mm spindle. Also figured out the reason for 118mm vs 120mm wide Stronglight spindles... The 120mm spindles were for bikes with 126mm wide dropouts. They correct the chain line for 6 speed FWs! 118mm spindles were for 120mm wide dropouts...



Next I replaced the original Stronglight B10 headset with one of the new style A9 headsets with cartridge bearings. The old B10 headsets still work fine but.... WOW! I could have had a V8!



New A9 headset. Note, I was able to clean up the rust along the the shore lines of the lugs. The pearlescent white that Peugeot used suffered from this problem. The pearl was in the thin top coat. I got some touch-up paint for a Lexus that has an abrasive point for removing the rust plus some clear coat for finishing the job.



Caged bearings



The other big change was to mount Simplex Retrofriction Shift Levers. The olde Simplex braze on lever bosses on the left below have M5x1.00 threads like those used on the plastic Prestige levers! Simplex Retrofriction Levers fit industry standard Campy style bosses and have M5x0.8 threads.



Simple solution... I used inch size #10 - 24 Machine Screw stainless button head cap screws. They're slightly undersized from the M5x1.0 threas so I installed them with blue Loctite. I think that I used 5/8" long screws. Make sure not to use screws that are too long because they may cause the braze to fail at the boss.



I put on a standard Simplex SX 410 RD rather than the drop parallelogram SX 610 because it has a Peugeot name plate. It works great!

Finished project with black drillium Stronglight 105bis chainrings... Looking out to the Golden Gate Bridge.



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Wow the prices in Canada must be through the roof. I just saw the Puma Redon Moves listed for $29 US and I agree they look like they fit the bill too. I was describing to my daughter the problems I was having with my cycling shoes and toe clips, and she suggested the indoor soccer shoes, The adidas work great.
Yes, there's a reason why us Canucks head down to the US to shop when the dollar is in our advantage and why you come up here when in it's in your favour. I wish the border was open so I could come down and do some shopping!!!
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Originally Posted by as50x20 View Post

Got a gold one. One of my favorite rides. Found it locally on CL. I could not get there fast enough!
Just, WOW! that is stunning. I normally don't like conversions to new group sets but that would make any modern biker jealous. I've never seen it in gold. Not a PSN 10 but my UO 14 made for the CDN market.
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What a labor of love! I am truly impressed with how much detail and attention you took to do you rebuild. Your last picture however is what really got me. Not only is your finished product awesome but so is your backdrop. In 1986, I was in the Bay area as a student and one of my most memorable rides on my PSN 10 started right around there: from Sausalito to Muir Woods and then Muir Woods to Stinson Beach via Panoramic Hwy. It was rides like this that made me fall in love with the Peugeot and my memory of those trips what prompted me to get a NOS Peugeot PSN 10
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