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Old 07-27-21, 06:30 AM
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Hello. Please help. Bike ID?

Hey everyone. This is my bike that was
given to me by my father in law. I need
some info on the frame please. Campy
Nuovo Record. Campagnolo drop outs
as well. Pump pegs and dual water
bottle bosses. Cinelli bars. A686 stamp
under the bottom bracket. Thank you.
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Old 07-27-21, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EricWade View Post
Hey everyone. This is my bike that was
given to me by my father in law. I need
some info on the frame please. Campy
Nuovo Record. Campagnolo drop outs
as well. Pump pegs and dual water
bottle bosses. Cinelli bars. A686 stamp
under the bottom bracket. Thank you.
'

Your father in law likes you very muchseems like a favored ride
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Old 07-27-21, 06:54 AM
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Pictures of the decals please.
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Pictures of the decals please.
The decals wont help. They are
Star Trek Borg stickers I put on
myself. The frame was rumored
to be Italian but I dont know. My
father in law passed in 2012. This
was his bike from the 80s. No head
badge either. I will keep this bike
forever. I just want to know what it is.

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Old 07-27-21, 09:02 AM
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2x bottle mounts, over the top bb cable routing, dimpled chainstay. Did your paw have any modifications done to it? From the cable routing I would say before '84.

Can you read markings on the bb?
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Old 07-27-21, 09:55 AM
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2x bottle mounts, over the top bb cable routing, dimpled chainstay. Did your paw have any modifications done to it? From the cable routing I would say before '84.

Can you read markings on the bb?
Here is a pic of the BB.
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Old 07-27-21, 10:11 AM
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I'd agree that the frame appears to have been modified. Given the clamp style gear cable tunnels, long dropouts and exposed nut brakes, all the braze-ons, with the possible exception of the chainstay cable stop, are probably later additions.
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Old 07-27-21, 10:42 AM
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Can you look at the BB cups and see what markings are on them?
Does the seat post have a size marked on it?
If no marking on the seat post, can you measure the diameter?
The above may narrow down the origin.

Looks to be a nice ride, whatever it may be.
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@EricWade - Roger on the decals/stickers.
You should turn the front tire wiper around. It should be oriented the same as the rear one.

Nice looking frame and I would keep it too if it fit me.

We are curious about the BB shell width. Markings on the BB cups would help.
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Found this pic online. Identical to mine.
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Hmmmm. Ok then.
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So it has a 70mm shell. Pull the seatpost and see if it has something on it like 27.0, 27.2, etc. please.
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Originally Posted by EricWade View Post
Hmmmm. Ok then.
We'll need more photos of the frame to help: braze-ons, dropouts, fork crown, bottom bracket, all tubing junctions.

If it's been modified, which appears likely, it will be much harder to identify.
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Lovely bike, but I have no idea what it is. I'll say this: It deserves better tires. Gatorskins are pretty good at preventing flats, but they're not good at providing a nice ride.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
So it has a 70mm shell. Pull the seatpost and see if it has something on it like 27.0, 27.2, etc. please.
Thanks for the help. The seat post is
26.8 I really appreciate the help. Great
gift considering today is my Birthday.
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Happy Natal Day

Originally Posted by EricWade View Post
Here is a pic of the BB.
Originally Posted by EricWade View Post
Thanks for the help. The seat post is
26.8 I really appreciate the help. Great
gift considering today is my Birthday.
Happy Birthday!

With a 26.8 seatpost I suspect the "A" in the "serial number" on your bottom bracket stands for "Aelle" Columbus tubing.
If you look up the steerer column of the forks, or feel around with a finger, is there rifling, are there ridges?
Can you pull the fork and look for a Dove above the crown?

The more information you supply, the greater the chance you'll get an identification of the frame builder.
Pictures of the details of the frame's construction are always informative!
Any place metal meets metal is a spot where a frame builder may have left signature, a fingerprint, a tell, a clue to their identity.

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70 shell and 26.8 seatpost. Making some progress.
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Originally Posted by EricWade View Post
They are
Star Trek Borg stickers I put on
myself. .
I you thought resistance is futile, you will be assimilated, before... wait until you've been on this forum a while.

Thr DOES look like a nice bike.
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Italian threading and yes with a 26.8 this point to Columbus Aelle but to hone more sharp results we will need some more pix of the frame details. The fact it has a hand-stamped 3-digit serial is intriguing
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The more detailed pictures are provided, the more accurate the ID will be, as machinist42 mentioned.

Given the info and two pics provided, a WAG would be a mid-70s Italvega, or equivalent Torpado, that had some work done.

Features consistent with that guess:
  • ITA threaded BB shell
  • Sloping fork crown
  • Flat and pointy seat stay caps
  • Seamed bb shell
  • Size stamped on the DT nozzle of BB shell
  • Crimping on the chainstay
  • (potentially) lugs
  • (potentially) bottom bracket shell
Not consistent: number stamped on the BB shell. There were some oddball Torpado frames with a letter prefix, but nothing like the font and format on the mystery frame. But, the frame has been worked on and it wouldn't be the first time a shop doing the work stamped its own code on the frame.











Here is a re-worked (owner identified) 1974 Super Speciale:




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