27" to 700c
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Some tires age well and some don't. I've had tires that I've had to toss out after only 5 years, not because the rubber was worn down, but because the sidewall casing had dried out and was cracking and falling apart, probably from UV exposure (Panaracer road clinchers, but I don't remember the model). On the other hand, I have a pair of MTB tires that I think I put on my mountain bike in 1992 that are still going strong. The rubber is slowly wearing down, but the casing and bead are still in great shape (Ritchey Megabyte Z-max).
Back to your original question about a 27"-to-700C conversion. The most important criteria is getting something compatible with your shifters. 27" wheels imply friction shifting but you don't say whether you've converted to indexed shifting or not. If you haven't, ignore this part. If you have, you'll need a wheelset that supports the speeds and spacing of your shifters. I've been out of cycling for a while (but just getting back into it) but I think most road wheels are 130mm rear dropout spacing and support 8- to 11-speed cassettes. If you're running 6-speed indexed shifting, new wheels probably won't work. If you're running 7-speed indexed shifting, you may be able to get an 8-speed cassette tor work but (same cog spacing) you might not be able to use all cogs. Above 7-speed, you should be fine.
My 27" conversion was not so much a conversion, as it was building up a frrame/fork designed for 27" wheels with components from a 700C-wheeled bike that had been through multiple crashes and an encounter with a car (I was the rider for all of those incidents). That build worked fine and I still use those wheels in that bike for daily use. But in 2009, I realized those wheels would not cut it for a loaded tour from Munich to Barcelona that I had planned. So I spent time looking for wheels to buy, but ended up building my own. I found some Shimano 105-SC 7-speed HyperGlide cassette hubs on eBay, got some new WTB 29er rims (DX23 I think) and built my own pair of sturdy touring wheels.
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Back to your original question about a 27"-to-700C conversion. The most important criteria is getting something compatible with your shifters. 27" wheels imply friction shifting but you don't say whether you've converted to indexed shifting or not. If you haven't, ignore this part. If you have, you'll need a wheelset that supports the speeds and spacing of your shifters. I've been out of cycling for a while (but just getting back into it) but I think most road wheels are 130mm rear dropout spacing and support 8- to 11-speed cassettes. If you're running 6-speed indexed shifting, new wheels probably won't work. If you're running 7-speed indexed shifting, you may be able to get an 8-speed cassette tor work but (same cog spacing) you might not be able to use all cogs. Above 7-speed, you should be fine.
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Temp solution to wheel dilemma
Picked this up for 30 bucks. Needed a brake bolt tapped to be rideable.



Index shifting works through all the gears.

Havent come across these brakes before so if anyone knows anything about them...



Index shifting works through all the gears.

Havent come across these brakes before so if anyone knows anything about them...
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Early Shimano SIS would be 6-speed. If your 6-speed freewheel or cassette is in good shape, my recommendation is to rebuild your wheels using your existing hubs.
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Ending building a new 27"
So I decided to go with building a single speed/fixed flip flop wheel. I went with a Formula track hub from Ebay, Sun Rims CR18, Sapim spoke and nipples. I really enjoyed the experience building the wheel. The hardest part was deciding what components to purchase; I did the hub first, rim then spokes.
While Sheldon Brown's instructions are very thorough I like to see what is going as well. Here is the link to the video I used.
Other thing to note is there is no dish on a single speed which made it a good first time wheel build. Riding a fixed gear is strange... And now for the pics...






While Sheldon Brown's instructions are very thorough I like to see what is going as well. Here is the link to the video I used.
Other thing to note is there is no dish on a single speed which made it a good first time wheel build. Riding a fixed gear is strange... And now for the pics...






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Why are you ditching the 27" wheels? You can get good tires for them. If the rims are questionable, then 700C is the way to go. If the rims are good, then why change them? Is there something else that you are after?
For me, I usually get an older bike and I prefer to keep the original hubs or period correct hubs. I not that finicky about period correctness, but the period correct stuff is what I am used to. Anyway. These usually have galvanized spokes and 27 inch rims. I will buy new spokes and new rims and relace the wheel. I like building wheels so for me, this is my way to go.
For me, I usually get an older bike and I prefer to keep the original hubs or period correct hubs. I not that finicky about period correctness, but the period correct stuff is what I am used to. Anyway. These usually have galvanized spokes and 27 inch rims. I will buy new spokes and new rims and relace the wheel. I like building wheels so for me, this is my way to go.
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Yeah, on my Schwinn Sprint I had to extend the bottom of the slots on the rear brake arms of my Superbe brakes and it’s still barely enough to clear the tire with 40/16 SS. If I went with a RD and positioned the rear axle properly, it would probably require a different rear brake like Tektro 559.
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Converting to 650b or smaller (584 mm or 559 mm) is another story entirely, as is the situation with fork raking to decrease trail. Those can result in needing new brakes, possibly even requiring brazing on canti posts.
Measure your frame carefully with the calipers you have, to make sure what will fit and what will not.
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Here is a very decent 32mm wide 27 inch (630mm) tire that is not too expensive:
https://www.swifttire.com/product/sa...8-folding-tan/
Here are some folks' long term user reviews on those particular 27 (630mm) tires and some accurate realistic tread widths of several of today's most popular 27 (630mm) choices:
https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/v...p?f=23&t=97809
https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/v...?f=23&t=103632
https://www.swifttire.com/product/sa...8-folding-tan/
Here are some folks' long term user reviews on those particular 27 (630mm) tires and some accurate realistic tread widths of several of today's most popular 27 (630mm) choices:
https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/v...p?f=23&t=97809
https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/v...?f=23&t=103632