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Filet-braised Schwinn… EXPOSED!

Old 08-04-21, 08:07 PM
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Filet-braised Schwinn… EXPOSED!

I’m not a “Schwinn for the win” person but I gotta say, impressive for $136.95 in 1972.
(Garbage can in the back for a classy look )

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That thing is begging for a bare finish.
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Old 08-04-21, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Swampthing View Post
That thing is begging for a bare finish.
The BB area is far less impressive but you are giving me some interesting ideas.
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Old 08-04-21, 09:19 PM
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I've been wanting to do this for years.... and I have an extra frameset that likely has had a front end impact. Someday I'll get around to it.
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Old 08-05-21, 01:01 AM
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And here I thought you were braising a filet of something ...
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They were brazing them that way for a long time, I have a New World, from just before WWII and it is fillet brazed.

if only Schwinn in the early 70’s had gone to oversized down and seat tubes
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Old 08-05-21, 07:27 AM
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I love a bare frame!
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Originally Posted by sincos View Post
And here I thought you were braising a filet of something ...
Fillet, fill it, Phil it - I’ve had my fill, aye.

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Don't put down garbage cans. Some of the best vintage scores are made by rummaging through trash bins. Just sayin'.

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I love a bare frame!
It looks real purdy but from what I have read on the interwebz, clear coating it is a bad idea. I won’t be keeping this bike and the guy getting it, like many people, doesn’t give a toss about the craftsmanship.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
They were brazing them that way for a long time, I have a New World, from just before WWII and it is fillet brazed.

if only Schwinn in the early 70’s had gone to oversized down and seat tubes
Schwinn used oversized CrMo tubing on these frames, didn't they?
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Originally Posted by dddd View Post
Schwinn used oversized CrMo tubing on these frames, didn't they?
I think the top tube was oversized. the seattube accepted a typical front derailleur, the other two tubes is where it ould have done the most good.
Most likely use oversized on the top tube to reduce set ups and raise volume for best purchasing prices.
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Old 08-05-21, 11:45 AM
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Fillet brazed:

from velocipedesalon.com

Filet Braised:

from cookinglikejulia.com

Both wonderful.
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Don't put down garbage cans. .
Looks like the OP's is a 32-gallon Blue Hawk, likely from Lowe's; I've had mixed results with these. Early ones held up well, later models crack readily.

Oh, wait, wrong forum.
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FYI, I have a free frame for anyone near Toledo Ohio. A 72 Super sport that I stripped ALL the parts off of for my other 3 Super sports. It is the smaller size they may call a 21 or 22”. Posted it on the sales section long ago. Not pretty and will need paint, but a project for anyone interested.
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Originally Posted by sd5782 View Post
FYI, I have a free frame for anyone near Toledo Ohio. A 72 Super sport that I stripped ALL the parts off of for my other 3 Super sports. It is the smaller size they may call a 21 or 22”. Posted it on the sales section long ago. Not pretty and will need paint, but a project for anyone interested.
I'm interested! I live in Niles, Michigan just north of the Indiana Toll Rd and Notre Dame U. I have a good friend that is a UPS long haul truck driver. He does the run from South Bend to Toledo 4 or 5 times a week. He is wanting to learn how to professionally paint and your frame would be a great project. I love Super Sports and would prefer working on one of them than some random frame as a learning tool.
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Originally Posted by dddd View Post
Schwinn used oversized CrMo tubing on these frames, didn't they?
I measured the tubes on my '66 Super Sport as follows:

Top Tube 1.000"
Down Tube 1.125"
Seat Tube 1.160"

You have to careful when replacing the front derailleur on these because of the slightly oversize seat tube.
I replaced mine with a Campagnolo but had to file it out so the clamp wouldn't snap.

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Funny stuff Doug

Originally Posted by Doug Fattic View Post
I'm interested! I live in Niles, Michigan just north of the Indiana Toll Rd and Notre Dame U. I have a good friend that is a UPS long haul truck driver. He does the run from South Bend to Toledo 4 or 5 times a week. He is wanting to learn how to professionally paint and your frame would be a great project. I love Super Sports and would prefer working on one of them than some random frame as a learning tool.
Life is funny Doug. I work at that UPS facility and perhaps have even seem/met/talked to him without knowing. I was in packages for 25 years, and a yard shifter of trailers for 8 where I saw many of the drivers. I now have made it all the way to the top as a janitor/porter. I now see many of these drivers while I am out in the lot picking up trash. It would be really coincidental if his run takes him there while I am working. We will have to get in touch. This is the smaller frame, and I stripped everything off, but still have some parts left FYI.
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Originally Posted by sd5782 View Post
Life is funny Doug. I work at that UPS facility and perhaps have even seem/met/talked to him without knowing. I was in packages for 25 years, and a yard shifter of trailers for 8 where I saw many of the drivers. I now have made it all the way to the top as a janitor/porter. I now see many of these drivers while I am out in the lot picking up trash. It would be really coincidental if his run takes him there while I am working. We will have to get in touch. This is the smaller frame, and I stripped everything off, but still have some parts left FYI.
What a coincidence! His name is Tom and has done that run for years. He has hung around my shop since he was a teenager in the 70's. However I texted him this morning about the frame and he said he does the Indy run now. Anyway I'm sure there must be a convenient way to hand off the frame if you are willing. Any parts that are left over would be appreciated too. I bought an old 1965 Super Sport just like the one my dad gave me for Christmas that also has terrible paint now and I can do them both at the same time.

Super Sports were measured center to top in inches. Because the seat tube sticks up well beyond the top of the top tube, a 22" SS is roughly the same as a 21"lugged frame.
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Originally Posted by tiger1964 View Post
Looks like the OP's is a 32-gallon Blue Hawk, likely from Lowe's; I've had mixed results with these. Early ones held up well, later models crack readily.

Oh, wait, wrong forum.
Not a Blue Hawk but a True Value branded can. Not sure of the vintage but with regular care it seems to be holding up well.
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Not a Blue Hawk but a True Value branded can. Not sure of the vintage but with regular care it seems to be holding up well.
They look so similar there's probably some guy in Italy doing private-label cans for a lot of companies.
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I'm thinking that the head tube ID on these frames is also perhaps a bit oversized, so special/specific headset needed iir.
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