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Old 03-28-22, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FML123 View Post
Okay, you guys convinced me. Iíll buy a clamp-on cage and use two 750ml bottles with hydration mix. Is 50% diluted Gatorade okay, or should I use one of the ďrealĒ hydration powders?
36 miles. Rest stop at mile 18 with water.
Pretty much flat out and back.
On the coast, if it hits 70 degrees I'd be surprised.

I'm doing the 3 climbs no fries ride (80 miles, heads inland where it's a lot warmer). One large bottle is all I'm taking. There's plenty of water along the route.

I'd bet that 2 bottles is overkill, but go ahead. If you're really concerned, power down 16 oz of whatever before you start. Do that and I'd be more concerned about there not being any porta-potties than getting dehydrated.
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Okay, you guys convinced me. I’ll buy a clamp-on cage and use two 750ml bottles with hydration mix. Is 50% diluted Gatorade okay, or should I use one of the “real” hydration powders?
Personally, I find Gatorade too sweet. If you dilute it to 50%, the sugar goes down but then so does the sodium which your body is sweating out. I've been pretty pleased with taking in 750 ml of orange juice for carbs and potassium and 1 liter of Skratch mixed for some carbs, sodium, potassium, magnesium (to prevent cramping) and calcium. My normal pre-ride night before prep is to take 500 to 1000 mg of Calcium chews and 400 mg of Magnesium (oxide) supplement to be sure I've got those onboard (I don't tolerate dairy so I could do Almond Milk or Lactaid for calcium intake as well). I normally take 5000 IU of Vit. D3 sublingual daily to keep my Vit. D3 levels up, available online at Rite-Aid for a very good price compared to buying in store.

Once on the road, I alternate drinks of OJ and my Skratch fluids. If I run out, I'll mix up more Skratch powder with water along the way. For the Eroica Ride, I'll carry extra Magnesium capsules and Calcium tablets plus Skratch pouches for myself and any others who might need it. Its pretty light so not a big deal other than where to carry it. Others have their own choices of electrolyte and rehydration fluids (or what they may eat at any of the food stations). YMMV. Just be sure to stay well hydrated once on the road and have sufficient fluids to keep going when no sources are available till the next stop.

Some of the below reviews are 4-6 years old. You might see or find reviews like on Amazon which are more recent. I buy my Skratch from a couple of local bike shops to support them rather than buy online.

https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/sports-drink-review

https://hangmymedals.com/sports-drink-comparison/

https://kylesbikes.com/blog/skratch-labs-review/
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12 View Post
Yea, the short route isn’t that demanding but it tends to get windy by the early afternoon. Wind-dry mouth. I use a fairly large water bottle with Nuun. There is only one stop and other than fruit that was it in 2019. The route takes you through San Simeon and you could always fill up at the hotels or something.
Ah, that’s good info. If there are places to get water I’ll just bring the one 750 bottle w/some kind of sports drink, and maybe a couple gels.
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I just checked the weather.com monthly forecast for Cambria and Paso Robles areas, the weekly forecasts will be checked closer to the ride dates.

For April 30-May 1, here's the monthly forecast averages:
Cambria High / Low 67 / 50
Paso Robles High / Low 76 / 43

However, as we know, temps can be quite variable, especially inland depending on local weather conditions. But certainly starting out in the morning it will be relatively cold to cool, warming through the late morning to warm in the afternoon. If we're lucky, not too much wind, and not too much heat. Early morning conditions along PCH can be quite cool with some wind, and many times a lot of fog - Leaving Cambria in 2019 on the Santa Lucia route, I ran into a fog bank around mile 5 which lasted for about 2-3 miles. Being around 6AM, it was still dark with only my headlight and taillight visible. Nice to have a wide shoulder but unnerving to not hear anything till a car came driving by, so stay to the right and make sure you've got a superior set of taillights or two, one on the helmet isn't a bad idea either.

As for Covid issues, California has had declining Omicron variant 1 cases for awhile, but Omicron variant BA.2 is rising quickly across the country and in California. So far I've seen or read that this variant is even more transmissible than Omicron BA.1 but is still relatively low in causing significant illness thankfully. Still, my recommendations is to be sure your vaccinations and boosters are up to date and reasonably recent, continue to practice safe distancing in crowded or indoor areas, and consider wearing a good surgical or N95 mask when in heavily crowded spaces or if you have significant risk factors (age, obesity, conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, respiratory or cardiac disease, immunosuppression, etc.). IMO, being outdoors should be pretty safe generally but since there will be huge influxes of people from all over California and other states, one should remain careful. Fist or elbow bumps would still be OK. California has lifted most masking mandates but individual businesses may still request or require them so bring a few to be sure.

My family plans to order in or takeout food to protect my handicapped and relatively fragile health daughter who will be coming with us to Cambria. I'm not sure if there is much Uber Eats, Doordash or other food delivery services within Cambria or Cayucos, maybe in Paso or SLO. Whatever or however you get food and supplies, please consider tipping where appropriate. There are two big grocery stores in town, and a couple of gas stations. As you may know, gas in California has hit record highs and SLO/Cambria areas are no different, ranging from $5.30-6.50 for regular. If you're trying to be frugal and you are a member, I recommend stopping at the SLO Costco or Monterey (Sand City) / San Jose-Gilroy area Costcos for gas to save some bucks on the way in and out. The Salinas Costco does not have a gas station. Some Sam's Clubs also have similar fuel savings but there aren't any within 100 miles of Cambria. Gasbuddy.com is a useful app or site to check for best gas prices if you are driving in.
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Excited to ride this year

So far it looks like we will ride this year. I have the bike I hand built in 2020 mostly ready to go. I have my hotel, car, and flight booked. My brother was supposed to ride with me last year unfortunately he can't make it.

Since I built the bike I couldn't figure out why my bike skipped in the smallest cog. I thought that maybe the rear derailleur mount was slightly off since I built the frame without a jig. It turns out the brand new 11-28 cassette I bought came with a 12t lock ring and the chain couldn't fully mesh with the 11t cog.

Does anyone know if there will be a vendor selling vintage style water bottles? I'll bring my modern camelbacks but wanted a more vintage look.
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Originally Posted by Motorhead69 View Post
So far it looks like we will ride this year. I have the bike I hand built in 2020 mostly ready to go. I have my hotel, car, and flight booked. My brother was supposed to ride with me last year unfortunately he can't make it.

Since I built the bike I couldn't figure out why my bike skipped in the smallest cog. I thought that maybe the rear derailleur mount was slightly off since I built the frame without a jig. It turns out the brand new 11-28 cassette I bought came with a 12t lock ring and the chain couldn't fully mesh with the 11t cog.

Does anyone know if there will be a vendor selling vintage style water bottles? I'll bring my modern camelbacks but wanted a more vintage look.
There should be no shortage of vintage and vintage style water bottles as well as just about anything else you might want or need, think mecca for all things C+V.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
There should be no shortage of vintage and vintage style water bottles as well as just about anything else you might want or need, think mecca for all things C+V.
To be clear, there is typically a swap meet on Friday and Saturday at Eroica. Right now all I can find online is a schedule for the cancelled 2021 event, but I'd bet there'll be another one.

Bring the bottles you have, you might be able to upgrade.
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
To be clear, there is typically a swap meet on Friday and Saturday at Eroica. Right now all I can find online is a schedule for the cancelled 2021 event, but I'd bet there'll be another one.

Bring the bottles you have, you might be able to upgrade.
Well the only time I was there was a long time ago in 17, but half of the vendors were shops that had new and used stuff and there was what I assume a couple of "authorized" vendors selling the official LEroica merch as well as Bianchi and others selling there own.

And now there is this,

https://mailchi.mp/eroica.cc/eroica-...h?e=640f492054

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Originally Posted by Motorhead69 View Post
So far it looks like we will ride this year. I have the bike I hand built in 2020 mostly ready to go. I have my hotel, car, and flight booked. My brother was supposed to ride with me last year unfortunately he can't make it.

Since I built the bike I couldn't figure out why my bike skipped in the smallest cog. I thought that maybe the rear derailleur mount was slightly off since I built the frame without a jig. It turns out the brand new 11-28 cassette I bought came with a 12t lock ring and the chain couldn't fully mesh with the 11t cog.

Does anyone know if there will be a vendor selling vintage style water bottles? I'll bring my modern camelbacks but wanted a more vintage look.
https://mailchi.mp/eroica.cc/eroica-...h?e=640f492054
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Van, I think the Eroica peeps must have been monitoring this thread!

A partial cut and paste from that link:

2022 EXPO & START/FINISH

We are pleased to announce our Expo and roll-out Start/Finish at the Veteransí Memorial Building on the Pinedorado Grounds in Cambria. The Veteransí Hall hosts the Friday Farmerís Market and supports the local Lionís Club, a beneficiary of Nova Eroica and Eroica California. Adjoining the Expo on Friday only is the local Cambria community Farmerís Market where the locals shop for organic fruit, produce and more. Venue & Start/Finish Location: Veteransí Memorial Building, 1000 Main St on the corner of Main and Cambria Drive.

VENDORS & EXHIBITOR SPACE AVAILABLE

At Eroica California all local bike shops, vintage bicycle dealers, parts retailers etc. are welcome. Space is limited and you can purchase two different spaces: 10'x10' or 10'x20'. Please check out the regulations and purchasing conditions on our website.
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Also looks like Bianchi is out and Colnago is in as the bike of record.

Any guesses what a Nago Eroica special could cost?
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Does anyone know if there will be a vendor selling vintage style water bottles? I'll bring my modern camelbacks but wanted a more vintage look.
I you want vintage look on a budget, pick up some of these Miller Lite cans, have a cheap drunk and then sand off the paint. Stick a cork in the top and you have a vintage bidon.


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[QUOTE=gugie;22457390]Van, I think the Eroica peeps must have been monitoring this thread!

A partial cut and paste from that link:

2022 EXPO & START/FINISH

Peeper's creeper's
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I you want vintage look on a budget, pick up some of these Miller Lite cans, have a cheap drunk and then sand off the paint. Stick a cork in the top and you have a vintage bidon.


Brilliant!
I think this calls for a contest for best decorated beer bidon.
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Unfortunately, I got bumped form my hotel reservation at the Squibb House B&B. The hotel called to say that the hotel is entirely booked for a family event and I never should have been able to make my reservation on hotels.com at I had done. Oh, well. Now I'm booked a few miles down the road at the Cambria Shores Inn. I'm still planning to drive down Friday evening and return Sunday evening.

I hope to log some good training miles while I have the week off from work for Spring Break next week.
@davester - I hope you're enjoying your Mexican sailing adventure! Retirement sounds grand. Let me know if you and/or any other Touroica riders need anything schlepped down to Cambria from the Bay Area.

Looking forward to making new acquaintances and seeing many of you again.
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Unfortunately, I got bumped form my hotel reservation at the Squibb House B&B. The hotel called to say that the hotel is entirely booked for a family event and I never should have been able to make my reservation on hotels.com at I had done. Oh, well. Now I'm booked a few miles down the road at the Cambria Shores Inn. I'm still planning to drive down Friday evening and return Sunday evening.

I hope to log some good training miles while I have the week off from work for Spring Break next week.
@davester - I hope you're enjoying your Mexican sailing adventure! Retirement sounds grand. Let me know if you and/or any other Touroica riders need anything schlepped down to Cambria from the Bay Area.

Looking forward to making new acquaintances and seeing many of you again.
Glad it didn't blow up your whole deal, apparently new tech/bs is too smart for its own good. I think I would spend a few minutes reviewing the policy for this sort of thing for which I'm sure they have solid backstopping for.

Almost sounds like BS on the original booking after they found out the big party needed more room or didn't want other folks in their way so you got bumped.

Anything hinky should result in being compensated.
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^When I got the call from the B&B, the person with whom I spoke was apologetic and seemed genuine. No money lost, no blood spilled. I’m not gonna let it ruin my good time.
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Glad it didn't blow up your whole deal, apparently new tech/bs is too smart for its own good. I think I would spend a few minutes reviewing the policy for this sort of thing for which I'm sure they have solid backstopping for.

Almost sounds like BS on the original booking after they found out the big party needed more room or didn't want other folks in their way so you got bumped.

Anything hinky should result in being compensated.
Small mom and pop business. Probably burned through a lot of savings just trying to stay open through the pandemic.
No need to go nuclear on them.
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^^^ No worries, I get it, not your fault.
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Brilliant!
I think this calls for a contest for best decorated beer bidon.
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Ferget that, the truly heroic will refill those bidons with beer at every stop along the way.

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Small mom and pop business. Probably burned through a lot of savings just trying to stay open through the pandemic.
No need to go nuclear on them.
Not advocating that but don't think its ok to just cast aside the good faith of somebody that tried to bring them business.

Obviously a rock and a hard spot, Hotels.com likely the actual bad guy here and that is likely a losing battle that should not be so IMO.
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^When I got the call from the B&B, the person with whom I spoke was apologetic and seemed genuine. No money lost, no blood spilled. Iím not gonna let it ruin my good time.
Looks like weíre not going to make it but we still have 4 nights reserved at this B&B. https://www.olallieberry.com
Looks like a nice place and a great location for the event. Iíll probably need to cancel them sometime soon. Let me know of youíre interested - maybe you could step in unless they have a wait list or something. We also have a few nights reserved at Ragged Point earlier that week too that weíll need to cancel.
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Looks like weíre not going to make it but we still have 4 nights reserved at this B&B. https://www.olallieberry.com
Looks like a nice place and a great location for the event. Iíll probably need to cancel them sometime soon. Let me know of youíre interested - maybe you could step in unless they have a wait list or something. We also have a few nights reserved at Ragged Point earlier that week too that weíll need to cancel.
The Olallieberry Inn is on the eastern part of Main Street just before what used to be the start finish of the 2019 event, now home to the original schoolhouse I believe. The Inn is really nice with a gourmet kitchen and nice grounds. The rooms are cute and vintage feeling but the house is reasonably updated. My wife and I visited in 2019 because we had stayed there in 1989 for our ten year anniversary B&B trip up and down the coast. If someone is looking for a spot, especially a couple, itís Avery nice place to stay and Iíd recommend it. Youíd be helping manny out too.
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By now most of you should have gotten an email from Eroica California, part of which fugue has quoted. Hereís the important parts:

2022 EXPO & START/FINISH

We are pleased to announce our Expo and roll-out Start/Finish at the Veteransí Memorial Building on the Pinedorado Grounds in Cambria. The Veteransí Hall hosts the Friday Farmerís Market and supports the local Lionís Club, a beneficiary of Nova Eroica and Eroica California. Adjoining the Expo on Friday only is the local Cambria community Farmerís Market where the locals shop for organic fruit, produce and more. Venue & Start/Finish Location: Veteransí Memorial Building, 1000 Main St on the corner of Main and Cambria Drive.

VENDORS & EXHIBITOR SPACE AVAILABLE

At Eroica California all local bike shops, vintage bicycle dealers, parts retailers etc. are welcome. Space is limited and you can purchase two different spaces: 10'x10' or 10'x20'. Please check out the regulations and purchasing conditions on our website.

BOOK NOW

WE HAVE SELECTED THE BEST HOTEL FOR YOU!

If you have not booked your hotel for Eroica California yet, we have some suggestions for you. Thanks to the support of the tourism office of Cambria, San Simeon, and Cayucos we have a selection of the best hotel offers to ensure that you enjoy a wonderful Eroica weekend. Please check out our website to find the best one for you!

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The event manager from Italy, Amadeo, is arriving in a few days and will be here for a month through the event. Iíve been in touch with two people intimately involved with the event in Cambria and California who confirmed the Expo / Festival will be held on the Veteranís Memorial / Pinedorado grounds on Main near Cambria Drive so the event and participants will be very visible and in the thick of things.

I suspect weíll be getting more announcements about the Saturday Dinner for those who are signed up, food support and stops, additional info on the rides themselves, and requests for volunteers as able.

itís a bit disconcerting to see the vendor announcements so late (I havenít much idea about vendors signing up prior, probably some) so I hope the turnout will be reasonable supported. Private vendors may make up a larger group.

My sense is to keep expectations lower and see how this waning epidemic first re-iteration comes off. Iím going to give the organizers and Cambria ground troops huge slack as they and we try to pull this off. Far away planning and difficulty getting everything done while the health situation has been in flux makes it a very fluid situation. What will be important is to get the main things done right about the festival, concours, Display, registration and material, course marking, food/fluid/mechanical support and sufficient quantities and qualities, and help us to have a safe and challenging set of rides. Itís up to us to be adaptable and positive about being in Cambria to enjoy the locale, the people, and being out and about again in some beautiful California country and oceanside.
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mech986 can you suggest to the Cambria and CA folk that the the Heroic riders want a mass start instead of the small groups of 10-15 like last time?

AND why the pic of the Saturday gravelbike ride?
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