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Old 09-16-21, 01:58 PM
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Patina!

I spotted this today. I know itís not a bike, but itís interesting how the owner dealt with the repaint/ donít repaint dilemma. Close inspection showed that some of the paint was left untouched, some taken down to primer, some to bare metal that was allowed to rust. Then it was all smoothed out and given a clear coat.
I wouldnít do this with a good frame but I am building a grocery store run bike that might sport this finish.


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Often strategic or by decades weathering is sealed in a two part clear coat.

itís a look
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Old 09-16-21, 02:52 PM
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I saw this on Gas Monkey garage many moons ago. I wasn't fond of it then. All that work, just put in the rest of the time. Your 1/2 way there.
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Originally Posted by canopus View Post
I saw this on Gas Monkey garage many moons ago. I wasn't fond of it then. All that work, just put in the rest of the time. Your 1/2 way there.
Depends on your aesthetic goal. I love looking at a perfectly restored car, but for a car you actually drive, having a perfect finish is a burden, IMO. Same for bikes. A quality bike paint job can run into 4 figures and the sky is the limit on a car paint job. I'd rather just be able to have everything mechanically in good shape and ride or drive something hard and not worry about rock chips and door dings.
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That would be way better gold plated like those Campy parts.
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Depends on your aesthetic goal. I love looking at a perfectly restored car, but for a car you actually drive, having a perfect finish is a burden, IMO. Same for bikes. A quality bike paint job can run into 4 figures and the sky is the limit on a car paint job. I'd rather just be able to have everything mechanically in good shape and ride or drive something hard and not worry about rock chips and door dings.
It's only the first scratch that hurts . And having though about it with my truck... It isn't about having perfect paint, it is about protecting it from the elements.
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Old 09-16-21, 04:14 PM
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I have to go with the "too much work for what's achieved" group here. To me, patina has to be natural to be of value. I can respect a vehicle with different color panels or patches of primer or whatever, but if you've taken the time to smooth things out and clear coat it, that's not patina anymore. It's an ugly restoration.

What I really want to know is, did it have a wood bed?
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It's only the first scratch that hurts . And having though about it with my truck... It isn't about having perfect paint, it is about protecting it from the elements.
Agreed, preservation is a big part of it. I am trying to figure out how to get rid of some rust bubbles on my vintage car but also not have the finish look terrible. Might end up doing the grey primer thing until I am ready to paint.
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Agreed, preservation is a big part of it. I am trying to figure out how to get rid of some rust bubbles on my vintage car but also not have the finish look terrible. Might end up doing the grey primer thing until I am ready to paint.
better gray prime and big motor than perfect paint and no power
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
better gray prime and big motor than perfect paint and no power
Haha, true! I like that saying, gonna steal it. Although, technically this will be more like "Better a good power to weight ratio and grey primer..." since it's a small European car with a big (for the time) motor, good carb, and strong ignition system.
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I agree, just a weathered look, not faked...dull paint chips, blemishes and all, but in order to deter rust I personally see nothing wrong with a dull clear coat....we do use frame saver and wax/clear on some of our bikes.

Weather dulled and checked lacquer paint....much more patina currently than in this shot!
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My favorite (of course no picture) was in a VW magazine 15-20yrs ago of a bus that had moss growing all over one side for years. When they cleaned it off, there was all these great rust designs.
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I didn't work very hard to achieve this..
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I didn't work very hard to achieve this..
That's the ticket!
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My old iron has the 'sunburned' look. The clearcoat on the top surfaces has gone away due to the car's previous life in the hot sun of southern Florida.


BUT it still moves OK...




BTW, my more recent purchase from the Tampa area looks much the same on the upper surfaces...


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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
I have to go with the "too much work for what's achieved" group here. To me, patina has to be natural to be of value. I can respect a vehicle with different color panels or patches of primer or whatever, but if you've taken the time to smooth things out and clear coat it, that's not patina anymore. It's an ugly restoration.

What I really want to know is, did it have a wood bed?
Donít know. Canít see it from the street and itís at the sort of house that I would not get close to without an invitation to cross the property line. Wanna look for yourself? Itís not far from me.
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Apparently boiled linseed oil looks good on rusty patina, but maybe this also presents as too shiny to the folks that also hate clear coat over rust. It's temporary and gets a little less shiny over time compared to the picture below. It also helps with preservation sort of like an external framesaver.

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Just be sure to check with your local politburo...er I mean HOA first.

Patina truck angers HOA.
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Beautiful old Chevy. Back in the 70's my BIL and I both had similar Chevy trucks, but with less patina and more "old". When they sat outside, unused, for a few weeks, our NW maritime climate easily defeated their primitive 6V ignition system, so time for an extension cord plus 15 minutes running wife's hair dryer directly into the open cap & distributor
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
I have to go with the "too much work for what's achieved" group here. To me, patina has to be natural to be of value. I can respect a vehicle with different color panels or patches of primer or whatever, but if you've taken the time to smooth things out and clear coat it, that's not patina anymore. It's an ugly restoration.

What I really want to know is, did it have a wood bed?
i wanna know if it's got a hot tub in the back
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Just the discussion i was looking for.

I was just given an old Huffy cruiser that is 100 percent rust. I want to build it up as a rat rod with new tires and bearings and keep the patina. I am afraid it is a little too crusty to just spray clear over it. Would a light sanding to knock down the rust a bit be the way to go. Then spray it with satin clear?
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Originally Posted by capnjonny View Post
Just the discussion i was looking for.

I was just given an old Huffy cruiser that is 100 percent rust. I want to build it up as a rat rod with new tires and bearings and keep the patina. I am afraid it is a little too crusty to just spray clear over it. Would a light sanding to knock down the rust a bit be the way to go. Then spray it with satin clear?
I would say no, Scrub it with soap and water and a stiff plastic brush (I like Libman's) , allow to dry in the sun then just use boiled linseed oil on it.
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Originally Posted by capnjonny View Post
Just the discussion i was looking for.

I was just given an old Huffy cruiser that is 100 percent rust. I want to build it up as a rat rod with new tires and bearings and keep the patina. I am afraid it is a little too crusty to just spray clear over it. Would a light sanding to knock down the rust a bit be the way to go. Then spray it with satin clear?
I'd brush it lightly with a wire wheel and then rub it with linseed oil. Used this method on some old tools with good results.
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then rub it with linseed oil. Used this method.... with good results.
Be very careful with linseed oil!!! Years ago my local bike shop burned down due to the oily rags left after treating a frame with linseed oil.

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