oceanhaitang

Just recently purchased this frame and the LBS has it narrowed down to a 1982 year but any idea what model it might be? Definitely not a Montello since those came out later… it doesn’t have fully chromed forks or seat stays. The forks are painted except for chrome caps and a chrome sticker on the chain stay. Supposedly the original paint and decals!

Was hoping you experts here in the C and V forums might be able to help? 🙏🏽

P!N20

Looks mint. 81/82 Treviso would be my guess.

https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalo...arello82/5.jpg

If those decals are original, they may disintegrate when exposed to oxygen.

oceanhaitang

That was my best guess… thanks for the confirmation with the link. No chrome chain stay sticker though… 🤔

I’ve heard that about the original decals…

Thanks again 🙏🏽

SJX426 

@oceanhaitang - The falloff leaving a ghost image.
P1050224 on Flickr
1989 Montello

P!N20

I don’t think the chain stay protector is OEM

T-Mar

I'm not seeing Campagnolo Portacatena dropouts, which is what I would expect to see on a 1981-982 Treviso. They don't even look like Campagnolo dropouts. Also, the BB shell looks lower grade that what I would expect. What size seat post is fitted? Serial number?

Chombi1 

I don't think the decals are original on this bike.
IIRC, the big letters spelling "Pinarello" of the original decal sets were separate and not combined on a single decal carrier, which the ones on this bike looks like. You can see this on the pic of the seat tube where the edge of the decal is just visible. That's why the letters flake off individually in different states of damage.
Which isn't really a big deal, as majority of Pinarellos from the 80's surviving these days have had their flaked off decals replaced with reproductions.

Here's my 88 Montelllo with the original decal letters flaking off individually........

oceanhaitang

So it takes a 27.2 seatpost. SL tubes and fork.

What picture are you seeing the BB shell in?

I’ll have to grab the serial number from them on Monday

I can see if I can get more pictures too!

P!N20

Not modified 1010A?

Fork crown fits with an early 80’s estimate - OK, so the ‘85 catalog shows it on the Treviso NR, but I’m not sure how many actually left the factory like that. I guess the serial number format will tell us which side of ‘84 it lands on.

T-Mar

My issue is more with the model than the era. The OP mentions a 27.2mm post and Columbus fork, which bodes well for a Treviso model, but I thought the dropouts (which looked like Gipiemme to me) and the BB shell pointed to something slightly lower. So, while I appreciate that the embossed stay caps were typically not seen below the Treviso during this era, I was getting enough mixed messages that I wasn't totally convnced. Besides the serial number, it would be interesting to know if the OP's fork declaration is based on the blade decal or the presence of a Columbus steering column. The latter would confirm a Treviso frameset.

Chombi1 

Keep in mind that is is widely known that the serial numbers on old Pinarello frames are all over the place, and supposedly, was never a good source for manufacturing dating.

oceanhaitang

Here are some photos the LBS took of my new frame before removing the components for my pick up date next month… hopefully with these pics, you experts can help me nail down the exact model 🙏🏽

The serial number is either 5799 or S799…

What do you think…? Treviso… Record…

P!N20

S799 is consistent with Pinarello's early 80's serial number format of letter, number, number, number.

I'm sticking with 81/82 Treviso.

oceanhaitang

Thanks so much for helping to identify my new bike… greatly appreciated 🙏🏽

Is there any differences between the ‘81 and ‘82 Treviso that are noteworthy?

P!N20

Not that I'm aware of.

oceanhaitang

Got SN confirmation from a guy on FB Vintage Pinarello group.

oceanhaitang

T-Mar

The additional photos reinforce my opinion that this is a lower grade BB shell than typically used on Treviso models of this era.

oceanhaitang

Already confirmed through SN#S799 that frame is Treviso SL tubing built in 1983, possibly sold in ‘84. Confirmed by Richard Wade who work as a Pinarello team mechanic for a large North American dealer. Got a hold of Richard by a recommendation from a fellow FB vintage Pinarello group member as Richard has helped identify many frames during this era.

I’m no expert… so all info is useful for me

oceanhaitang

Will look to see if it’s Columbus SL steering column per your advise when I pick it up in a few weeks 🙏🏽