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Old 02-10-22, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cinelliguy View Post
Great bike and build! Curious, does Colnago still offer Gilco tubing? Did you have a choice of tubing? What is the tire size you have mounted? 700X28?
Mine is in "Gilco" as in it has the same lovely profile but is made by some other manufacturer than Columbus. It's really stiff and racy.

Colnago didn't specify who made the tubeset.

Currently 700x28
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Old 02-10-22, 04:59 PM
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Yep, Gilco.

Sorry, I was distracted by the overall build! Thanks. I have a 1990 Master (Gilco of course), it's a great ride for me and my size/weight. 6', 165lbs. I love my Colnago. Great bikes.
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I missed this first time through. Gorgeous bike and nicely built! I’m sure you’ll be happy with it. I have a first generation C40 and have long wanted a Master to compare the rides.

There is a late 80’s Master Piu in my size on my local CL. I looked at it once, it’s very beat up and will need a lot of TLC and probably a repaint. I decided to go for it but seller, who gave a flaky vibe at first meet, proved me right and no showed for our second meet up after I moved heaven and earth to be there on time. I gave up on a try at a third meet.
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat View Post
Mine is in "Gilco" as in it has the same lovely profile but is made by some other manufacturer than Columbus. It's really stiff and racy.

Colnago didn't specify who made the tubeset.

Currently 700x28
I asked several people and no one would confirm anything. It's the same Gilco specs but probably made by Dedacciai.

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Old 02-10-22, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by droppedandlost View Post
I asked several people and no one would confirm anything. It's the same Gilco specs but probably made by Dedacciai.

Really nice. Very similar to mine.


2016 Master Arabesque. Im still working on cleaning and assembly. Pic by previous owner, via Cycling Tips.



1985 Master under construction.

It was horrible with 9-speed DA & Zipps. Hoping this incarnation comes together with more manners.

I have an 03 Master Extra Light (Art Decor) and it was my campaign bike last year. Mountains, endurance, shootouts, it ran well with a 53/39 and 11-34 on DA9000.

Also have a Super, 85. And a carbon 2016. They are kind of addictive.

Id love a C40 in Mapei, but those things are crazy expensive. Many collectors have several of the Mapei versions, and think nothing of $2000 repaints. Not my arena.

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Old 02-11-22, 05:07 PM
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I bought mine new in 2008, built with Campy Athena 11 speed. 19 lbs as shown with no carbon parts.


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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat View Post
After a 14 month wait, my 56cm Colnago Master has arrived from Italy! Too hard to resist a brand new steel lugged frame from such a storied marque.

I was told that these are not in high demand, so perhaps it is only a matter of time before these are no longer produced.

I posted this in the C+V section because we appreciate this kind of stuff.

This is delicious. Finished set up?
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Old 03-14-22, 09:23 PM
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What a work of art!
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Old 03-15-22, 08:58 AM
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I recall hearing that the new supplier of Colnago's steel is in Taiwan

I've owned six Masters over the years, great frames
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Old 03-15-22, 11:33 AM
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Get some wax on the chrome before it starts to rust
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Old 03-15-22, 08:47 PM
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I noticed that a lot of these retro steel modern bikes never ever seem to bring back the curved fork legs. Are curved fork legs just bad and not worth remaking??
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie View Post
Get some wax on the chrome before it starts to rust
I suppose that may be good practical advice, but contrary to many stories I've heard about "Italian chrome" over the years, my experience has not matched the negative stereotype. Just make sure to keep it clean, dry, and wipe off any post-ride sweat - no problems.

A tiny bit of patina is all that marks the chrome of my '83 Colnago - and we need an extreme close-up in order to see it:



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Originally Posted by Oldairhead View Post
I bought mine new in 2008, built with Campy Athena 11 speed.

Now THAT is a @#$%^& bicycle.
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Old 03-16-22, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
I noticed that a lot of these retro steel modern bikes never ever seem to bring back the curved fork legs. Are curved fork legs just bad and not worth remaking??
Well, they sure aren't "bad."

Colnago's fork just made a lot of friends, and maybe they're just easier to produce.
I have a spare Colnago carbon fork, and it's straight, too. Go figure.
I swapped it for steel because of the raccoon thing (I like shiny objects).

The geometry between their curved forks and their straight forks is pretty much the same, so go figure.
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Old 03-17-22, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bamboobike4 View Post
I have a spare Colnago carbon fork, and it's straight, too. Go figure.
I swapped it for steel because of the raccoon thing (I like shiny objects).
Any idea of the weight difference between the two? My weight weenie side wants to replace my chrome fork w carbon
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Originally Posted by dbf73 View Post
Any idea of the weight difference between the two? My weight weenie side wants to replace my chrome fork w carbon
No idea, quite a bit, Im sure. The carbon is full carbon and the steel full steel.
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Any idea of the weight difference between the two? My weight weenie side wants to replace my chrome fork w carbon
The steel is considerably heavier. By a lot! (at least it sure felt that way). Modern carbon forks are ridiculously light.

The forks on my 2020 Master have large diameter blades, that are more "round" than oval (in the conventional sense), very track bike-ish. They feel super stiff when underway. I have quite a few vintage bikes to compare them to, so my perception is more objective in my opinion.

ETA- If I replaced my forks with carbon, the ride would be incredible. I just can't muster the courage to go away from the lovely chrome forks though.

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Originally Posted by dbf73 View Post
Any idea of the weight difference between the two? My weight weenie side wants to replace my chrome fork w carbon
New and uncut:
Colnago Precisa - 833g
Columbus Minimal - 338g
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You'll have a hard time finding a modern carbon fiber fork with a 1 inch steerer

I've had a couple of Masters with Flash carbon fiber forks and didn't really notice a huge difference in the ride
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
You'll have a hard time finding a modern carbon fiber fork with a 1 inch steerer
Precisa(ly) (pun) why I'm hoarding 1 Colnago and 1 Ritchey.
The Colnago is likely too short for any Colnago I have, because I like a '17 stem on level top tube bikes.

Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
I've had a couple of Masters with Flash carbon fiber forks and didn't really notice a huge difference in the ride
I didn't even (try to) notice the 400+ gram difference. I swapped the fork prior to the first ride.
The bike is still pretty light, and the fork looks great against the lugs.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
I noticed that a lot of these retro steel modern bikes never ever seem to bring back the curved fork legs. Are curved fork legs just bad and not worth remaking??
the straight blade fork was a coup for marketing and saved euros in production, win, win. The predecessor was the all chrome fork, only the size needed to be matched. The cost was more polishing prior to plating.
but think of the logistic savings.

one might be able to state that the blades if of air hardened steel- much easier to keep them straight. Not sure at all if they are.
with the weights mentioned in this thread, if air hardened, not of any thinner wall.
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