Foot shifting - what could possibly go wrong?
11-18-21, 07:52 PM
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11-18-21, 07:58 PM
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11-18-21, 08:16 PM
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Paul de Vivie (alias Vélocio) recommended using a stick for upshifts and the heel of the boot for downshifts.
Just going back to their roots at Riv, clearly.
Just going back to their roots at Riv, clearly.
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Ill bet I could pull off this maneuver at least a half dozen times before something tragic happens.
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11-18-21, 08:42 PM
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First thought was how gross your shoes would become, followed shortly thereafter by how bad it'd hurt getting your foot stuck.
11-18-21, 08:47 PM
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I think you need to lose the shoelaces...
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11-18-21, 11:24 PM
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11-19-21, 12:03 AM
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Note that the video shows this being done on a Riv model that features their now-almost ubiquitous loooooooooooong chainstays. You could park a 1969 Cadillac El Dorado between that seat tube and rear wheel.
I like Riv and buy parts and sometime clothes from them on a semi-regular basis. Will, the Riv employee in the video, is a great guy; you'd be hard pressed to find a friendlier guy. I'm glad Rivendell is there to be a quirky niche voice in the cycling world. But I don't agree with everything Riv. This is one of their ideas I will never adopt. Even if I had a bike with chainstays that long (I don't and likely never will), I do not trust my (fading) coordination nearly enough to risk the potentially really bad outcome of miscalculating. But I'm old and stodgy and allergic to pain. YMMV.
I like Riv and buy parts and sometime clothes from them on a semi-regular basis. Will, the Riv employee in the video, is a great guy; you'd be hard pressed to find a friendlier guy. I'm glad Rivendell is there to be a quirky niche voice in the cycling world. But I don't agree with everything Riv. This is one of their ideas I will never adopt. Even if I had a bike with chainstays that long (I don't and likely never will), I do not trust my (fading) coordination nearly enough to risk the potentially really bad outcome of miscalculating. But I'm old and stodgy and allergic to pain. YMMV.
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11-19-21, 12:03 AM
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Would love to see a video of that shifting!
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11-19-21, 12:43 AM
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Try shifting a Campagnolo Cambio Corsa going up hill.
I am not nearly flexible enough to reach that far back and down, even with one of the "tourist" models with the longer controls.
Note to shift any one of the Campagnolo lever shifters, the chain must be backpedaled, catch the new gear, cock the lever and resume pedaling.
All the while keeping the forward momentum going.
Shifts must be planned in advance so the bike keeps rolling forward.
I am not nearly flexible enough to reach that far back and down, even with one of the "tourist" models with the longer controls.
Note to shift any one of the Campagnolo lever shifters, the chain must be backpedaled, catch the new gear, cock the lever and resume pedaling.
All the while keeping the forward momentum going.
Shifts must be planned in advance so the bike keeps rolling forward.
11-19-21, 11:40 AM
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I also thought that the last time @iab posted about a Vittoria Margherita! The only video I could find was this one.
Looks like the version in the video has some paddles mounted on the chainstay that guide the chain. Not sure if this is a later version or IAB's photo is of an incomplete drivetrain.
11-19-21, 12:26 PM
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11-19-21, 01:07 PM
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11-19-21, 04:14 PM
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I watch this and just feel old... WHY!!!!
And having once, when young, attempted to check my chain with my fingers and getting them sucked in the chain ring, I feel I can ask that question.
And when it finally comes to pass when the foot gets sucked into the tire... the "I told you so" will role right off the tongue without a gram of sympathy.
And having once, when young, attempted to check my chain with my fingers and getting them sucked in the chain ring, I feel I can ask that question.
And when it finally comes to pass when the foot gets sucked into the tire... the "I told you so" will role right off the tongue without a gram of sympathy.
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11-19-21, 05:01 PM
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Oh! I am only just now realizing that the lever by the seat tube is only for tensioning and de-tensioning the chain. It doesn't provided any side to side movement of the chain. Wow
11-19-21, 06:00 PM
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In "The Dancing Chain," Frank Berto talks about cyclists in the 1930s downshifting chainrings with their feet and upshifting by pulling the chain up and over by hand. Okay, I guess ... .
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