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Old 11-25-21, 01:35 PM
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Crossed off my last "gotta have" when I obtained this a couple summers ago:



The more I add days to my years, the less I want to obtain more stuff. Don't know why, but this trend has become obvious to me in the last year or so. No sellers remorse after passing along two frames and one complete bike last year, either. Good for me

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I’m looking for a tall quality Mixtie for 700c wheels preferably with Hellenic stays.



I know Univega made a full chromo hybrid I just haven’t stumbled on one yet.
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If I was going to find new vintage territory - it would be in the direction of Ridability over Collectibility. Free hubs over freewheels, integrated shifting/braking, dual pivot brakes, etc. Essentially a move to the 90’s. I can live with 25mm tires.


As far as a bike addition to my group??? I guess I need a higher quality French bike.


I no longer seek Grail (bikes/framesets) but I am actively working on saddles and the requirements for greater cockpit comfort.






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Old 11-25-21, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
Similar desire for years with wanting a path race, rod brakes and all.

Finally cheated and broke down over the winter and ordered a brand new Pashley Guv'nor. It's such a cool riding bike I wish I had did it earlier.
Wow, very cool! I guess I have a back-up plan now.
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A bike or frame from one of the limited-production French builders. For some reason very few of these seem to have made it to the US. You do occasionally see a Singer or Herse, although these are beyond the "attainable" range for me.
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Old 11-25-21, 02:47 PM
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Very few boring "all Campy Italian bikes"



I like French bikes because most are reasonably affordable and they ride nice.

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Those are lovely bikes. I especially like the late 60s Bertin. The '75 Gus Betat is cool and brings back good memories as I grew up in New Orleans. I think French bikes hit the spot in terms of collectability. The prices tend to be good and French parts are, well, interesting and different. One very good thing about French components is that they are easy to set up with decent gearing (particularly compared to Italian bikes of a similar era).
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Old 11-25-21, 05:38 PM
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Dinucci designed early '90s Allez.
Do we know what years correspond to his designs?
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85(?) peugeot

I'm not sure I need, but would very much like to ride and remember, a 1985 Peugeot like the one I had in High School and took touring.

The light blue didn't seem to be present on the low- mid-ends rides that year. Maybe it was an 84 ?

In my memory, it was magic. Quick but stable, easy to ride no handed, carried a load, comfortable all day.

Maybe I should leave the memory undisturbed!

But if I saw one that triggered my memory, I'd drive and spend and pursue that, out of proportion to it's nominal value.
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Years ago I visited Jimmie Johnson's Hetchins Weekend in Fallbrook CA. There were 40+ Hetchins on display.

That's Brian Baylis in the T shirt

Jimmie who was an expert on Hetchins, said only 2 mixtes with "Vibrant" stays had ever been built. Baylis may have built one.

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80's minty Paramount is the grail bike. Prologue would be nice too, but since I have a Peloton,not as big a priority.

. Ice Pink Prelude also would make the cut but I do have the purple one already just something about the Ice Pink!. A top of the line Trek would be nice too. 25"-25.5" My local bike shop as a teenager was a Schwinn/Trek Dealer and I used to spend hours looking at these bikes dreaming about upgrading my Schwinn World
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Originally Posted by jonny7 View Post
Do we know what years correspond to his designs?
I know '93 for sure. I've heard '94, '91, and '92 but can't confirm. They're pretty easy to distinguish with their socketed seat stays and fairly vertical cutouts in the dropouts.
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I enjoy the variety of interpretations of "attainable." Makes for an interesting thread.
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Originally Posted by mpetry912 View Post
Years ago I visited Jimmie Johnson's Hetchins Weekend in Fallbrook CA. There were 40+ Hetchins on display.

That's Brian Baylis in the T shirt

Jimmie who was an expert on Hetchins, said only 2 mixtes with "Vibrant" stays had ever been built. Baylis may have built one.

/markp
H**Y CRAP!!!

I may never have one as it would have to be an over the top one for me.

Been very lucky to find many of the ones I have and be able to pony up for them.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
I enjoy the variety of interpretations of "attainable." Makes for an interesting thread.
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As with many things C+V, we all have a different yardstick for most of this, want, need, desire, $$$ and so much more.

Good example for me were the first two Merz's, they weren't cheap but finding them at all was the get, they could have been far more than they were and it would not have stopped me.

One he had built for himself and one was in fantastic original condition, two of the best possible ones that I could ever find, both absolute bargains to me.
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If I define attainable C&V as bikes not yet in the stable, an 80s Merckx or a 70s Colnago immediately come to mind.

However, attainable C&V for me currently means the dozen or so bikes already acquired but seemingly forever queued-up in pre/post overhaul and re-assembly.

So close, yet so far from being able to finally experience. Very much attainable if I can magically create more hours in the day.
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I do not have a wish list or a grail bike. I have got every bike I could possibly ever need, and there certainly isn't a hole in my collection that needs to be filled.

However ...

I have a soft spot for small - and to most people obscure - brands that have an interesting back story, so I do find myself still buying stuff every now and then. Especially if it's cheap. This is the latest frame I could not resist, a rather tatty Van Rossem:



Joop van Rossem is a former racer who opened a shop in The Hague in the early 1970's. He set out to become a frame builder and consulted some of the best builders of the day, such as Jasper Bouma and Ugo de Rosa to try and learn the tricks of the trade. Whether he actually built many frames I don't yet know, but he did become the Dutch importer for De Rosa, and his shop became locally famous for its high quality racing machines.

The best known Van Rossem is the one used by Keetie Hage in Munich in 1978 to beat the world hour record:



The frame I bought came from Martens of Zevezele, Belgium, by the looks of it. Very nicely made and my size to boot:



Filled another hole I didn't know I had.
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I've finished my bicycle buying, but I have been procrastinating (for years) about acquiring a set of early Nisi (mustard-color label) tubular rims for my Moser, 28-spoke.
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2 seemly unattainables for me have been a Charrel rando and a Wizard. Attainables that I have been searching for are a Mercian Vincitore and a Rivendell Atlantis. I’m at my sell imposed 12 bike max, so the difficult decision is always what goes if I find one.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
I do not have a wish list or a grail bike. I have got every bike I could possibly ever need, and there certainly isn't a hole in my collection that needs to be filled.

However ...

I have a soft spot for small - and to most people obscure - brands that have an interesting back story, so I do find myself still buying stuff every now and then. Especially if it's cheap. This is the latest frame I could not resist, a rather tatty Van Rossem:



Joop van Rossem is a former racer who opened a shop in The Hague in the early 1970's. He set out to become a frame builder and consulted some of the best builders of the day, such as Jasper Bouma and Ugo de Rosa to try and learn the tricks of the trade. Whether he actually built many frames I don't yet know, but he did become the Dutch importer for De Rosa, and his shop became locally famous for its high quality racing machines.

The best known Van Rossem is the one used by Keetie Hage in Munich in 1978 to beat the world hour record:



The frame I bought came from Martens of Zevezele, Belgium, by the looks of it. Very nicely made and my size to boot:



Filled another hole I didn't know I had.
Nice, I had one built by Martens too. I sent him detailed pics of mine via email and he confirmed making it in 1985.
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Dave Kirk custom. I set a number of personal goals a few years back that when completed a deposit would be made. down to meeting the one last goal
And now you’ve met him in person!
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Originally Posted by tgot View Post
I'm not sure I need, but would very much like to ride and remember, a 1985 Peugeot like the one I had in High School and took touring.

The light blue didn't seem to be present on the low- mid-ends rides that year. Maybe it was an 84 ?

In my memory, it was magic. Quick but stable, easy to ride no handed, carried a load, comfortable all day.

Maybe I should leave the memory undisturbed!

But if I saw one that triggered my memory, I'd drive and spend and pursue that, out of proportion to it's nominal value.
I have the same desire too. Was looking on Ebay just yesterday for the like.of the bike I rode from 85-87 in Germany. Beige with those orange rainbow decals, full fenders, rear rack, generator and lights. I think I used that bike more than my BMW 2002ti for getting around over there.
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Originally Posted by verktyg View Post
My Grail List is just about empty and so is my Bucket List too. Time to go the other way!

Watch for some nice ones being cast asunder soon... C&V 54cm - 58cm frames and bikes from all over.
If you happened to not need any 60cm frames, I can always seem to have room for just one more French lady…
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I got too may bicycles. Sure? Yes. Is there something what I'd really like to have?
Yep.



Aldo first forgot it but there were made five of these. Aldo? Check the rear fork end.
But it has to be attainable?
Probably this isn't that too. But maybe ..

Colnago bitubian is very nice! I have the bititan and it rides superb as TI is a wonderful tube material.
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Would love to find a classic TI mountain or gravel bike. Which are the grail models ? I do have a nice classic GT stainless steel SS mountain bike which is setup and rides wonderful.
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I have a few vintage Treks, but this 1982 model would be a nice addition (centerpulls instead of cantis)


In either 24” or 25”. Not many in that size, so hard to find…

(That sure looks like John Howard in the photo, but he was a racer, not a tourer)

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