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Old 11-26-21, 11:45 AM
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My modest Japanese collection in for the winter

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Nice bikes! Hope they all get ridden from time to time.
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Makes me want to grab um off the wall and take off....

Nice....
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Question-except for the Univega, where are the brake cables going into the levers? It looks like they just kinda disappear. TIA, love the bike porn BTW
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Originally Posted by SpedFast View Post
Question-except for the Univega, where are the brake cables going into the levers? It looks like they just kinda disappear. TIA, love the bike porn BTW
Those are aero brakes the cables run under the bar tape into the levers
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The nice thing about a quill stem is you can easily correct this faux pas.
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So what will you ride through the winter?
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Itís not that cold yet. It looks like it might hit 60s later this week at least in Iowa. Maybe itís a colder in Ohio? Iíve been getting out to ride at least 2x a week so far but I have started using Zwift as well. It does get dark early.
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Itís not that cold yet. It looks like it might hit 60s later this week at least in Iowa. Maybe itís a colder in Ohio? Iíve been getting out to ride at least 2x a week so far but I have started using Zwift as well. It does get dark early.
I've been contemplating jumping on the Zwift train for the last several years, but maybe this will be the year it actually happens. I don't mind riding in the cold, but I also don't exactly relish it. I'm usually done after about 3 hours if it's 30-40F. Colder than that is 2 hours max.
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I've been contemplating jumping on the Zwift train for the last several years, but maybe this will be the year it actually happens. I don't mind riding in the cold, but I also don't exactly relish it. I'm usually done after about 3 hours if it's 30-40F. Colder than that is 2 hours max.
It gets dark early in Boston, I think you'd enjoy it. Today was a decent day to be outside since it hit 50 but it was so easy to get a good 30 minute work out on the trainer. It's compact timewise and it's easy to get your heart rate up. I figure if I go on a ride, that's at least 2 hours from start to finish. If I do the trainer, one hour gets me a good work out. Then I get a bit stir crazy and head outdoors either to ride or hike if it's too cold.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
I've been contemplating jumping on the Zwift train for the last several years, but maybe this will be the year it actually happens. I don't mind riding in the cold, but I also don't exactly relish it. I'm usually done after about 3 hours if it's 30-40F. Colder than that is 2 hours max.
Well, if it's sunny...

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Looks quite balmy to me:

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
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The nice thing about a quill stem is you can easily correct this faux pas.
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Panasonic DX 5000?
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Originally Posted by robertj298 View Post
Those are aero brakes the cables run under the bar tape into the levers
Surely you meant "ergo" levers? haha Bikes do look good.
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Surely you meant "ergo" levers? haha Bikes do look good.
Is this a bad joke that you are doubling down on or serious?
It's so basic, I can't actually tell which.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Is this a bad joke that you are doubling down on or serious?
It's so basic, I can't actually tell which.
Not sure why you care, but for what it's worth, aero brakes as he mentioned are the caliper end of the business while "ergo" levers are what he was intentionally referring to. I was pulling his leg about calling ergo levers aero brakes. Moving on.
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Originally Posted by SpedFast View Post
Not sure why you care, but for what it's worth, aero brakes as he mentioned are the caliper end of the business while "ergo" levers are what he was intentionally referring to. I was pulling his leg about calling ergo levers aero brakes. Moving on.
The most traditional style of brake lever for drop handlebars is called Non-Aero. The cable exits the brake lever body out of the top and makes a wide arc around the stem and handlebar before the first cable guide or brake stop. While this style has fallen out of mainstream favor for the "aero" alternative, purists, collectors, and tourers often prefer the non-aero variant for simplicity, ease of maintenance, and aesthetics. Up through the mid-1980's there were several companies making non-aero offerings, each with their own styling, following, and price point: Mafac, Campagnolo, Shimano, Universal, Modolo,Dia-Compe, Weinmann, just to name a few.
In the mid 80s, levers with the housing routed underneath the handlebar tape, dubbed "aero", were becoming more mainstream. While Dia-Compe was likely the first company to release a consumer aero brake lever, Shimano did have the Dura-Ace AX brake lever with aero routing in the early 80s.
https://velo-orange.com/pages/brake-lever-selection

- cable visibly exiting top of brake hood = traditional/non-aero
- cable exiting hidden under brake hood and tape = aero
- brake lever that is bent = ergo


This is how the terms are universally(with one exception) used.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
- cable visibly exiting top of brake hood = traditional/non-aero
- cable exiting hidden under brake hood and tape = aero
- brake lever that is bent = ergo


This is how the terms are universally(with one exception) used.
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Makes me want to grab um off the wall and take off....

Nice....
Pity they're all 56's.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
I've been contemplating jumping on the Zwift train for the last several years, but maybe this will be the year it actually happens. I don't mind riding in the cold, but I also don't exactly relish it. I'm usually done after about 3 hours if it's 30-40F. Colder than that is 2 hours max.
That's what I've done. I ride after work during Daylight Savings Time, but once that's gone I can't do midweek rides outside. Most years that meant only Sunday rides and those would get shorter as my fitness drained away from not riding midweek. I started Zwifting in Fall of 2020 and actually maintained much the same number of hours/week, so when Spring came I didn't have to rebuild my fitness.

But one thing I really miss about those post-work rides is that they are the perfect time to do "shakedown cruises" on any bike I've just built up. Sunday rides are too long to not have everything dialed in, like saddle height/setback/angle, for example, or even whether the saddle is any good AT ALL. Plus things like bottom brackets - the 'click, click, click' that you can stand for an hour's ride will drive you mad over 4 hours.
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+1 on the Panasonic, that's super nice.

OK I give up - how are you securing those to the wall!!??
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+1 on the Panasonic, that's super nice.

OK I give up - how are you securing those to the wall!!??

Note the small bracket under the non drive side pedals
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+1 on the Panasonic, that's super nice.

OK I give up - how are you securing those to the wall!!??
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
...I ride after work during Daylight Savings Time, but once that's gone I can't do midweek rides outside.
Worked with a Doc once that kept a Beater Bike at the practice for noon rides during winter. There were more than a few times that RATS!!!... He just did not come back... Ha

Of course that Beater Bike was an early 70's solid PX-10...
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