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A shortish history of modern American frame builders

Old 01-27-22, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by motogeek View Post
Others that come to mind are Gary Fisher...
Gary was never a framebuilder.
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Old 01-27-22, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Gary was never a framebuilder.
Which reminds me...
Otis Guy, Joe Breeze, Steve Potts.

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oops. I see @tricky beat me to Joe Breeze.

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Old 01-27-22, 08:46 PM
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I'll buy that, wasn't sure if he was or not. Thanks for clarifying, Gugie
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Old 01-27-22, 08:54 PM
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Ross Shafer yet. Ross was building lugged road bikes before Salsa. Now days he designs and builds pedal steel guitars.
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Frank the Welder. Used to participate on this forum years ago.
Contract builder, recently heard he was doong torchwork on some of the new Serotta builds.
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Another name to add is Steve Garn. In the late 1980s, Steve started building frames with the BREW brand name. Still in business outside Boone, NC, and has a frame building school (TIG welded).
unless you are an experienced welded, i would not expect someone to become proficient at TIG welding in one week (Iíve taken the class).
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Old 01-27-22, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
so many mentions of neat frames, and NO PHOTOS!??!

what is the world coming to?

Steve in Peoria, wondering why I haven't seen these on the road

I might have shown this before,but it's my custom built Veloce that I had built for me in around 1986 by John Stinsman in Allentown, PA.Paintjobfades from Dark Rose Metallic at the top to Light Rose Metallic at the bottom
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Old 01-27-22, 09:47 PM
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Kieth Anderson started in Indianapolis. Eventually he went out west and was best known for painting until he retired. I helped him a little with advice when he started building but not with painting where he made his real mark.

Chris Kvale does beautiful file work on the lugs on his frames. Nicely thinned. The building where his shop was located burned and it has taken some time to get it back to functioning again. He reports its progress periodically on the CR list.

I taught Curt Goodrich also in Minneapolis how to paint. He wanted more control over his entire product and didn't want to depend on when someone else might be able to get them done.

Rich Gangl has more various skills than another other frame builder. He has the most well equipped shop I have ever seen. He can build steel, titanium and aluminum and of course paint too. We are very good friends. We drove together to take the 1st titanium welding class at UBI that John Cherry also attended. His work is amazing.
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Old 01-28-22, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Fattic View Post
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Rich Gangl has more various skills than another other frame builder. He has the most well equipped shop I have ever seen. He can build steel, titanium and aluminum and of course paint too. We are very good friends. We drove together to take the 1st titanium welding class at UBI that John Cherry also attended. His work is amazing.
The short-.lived Asphalt magazine did an article on Rich Gangl. Very nice!


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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Another name to add is Steve Garn. In the late 1980s, Steve started building frames with the BREW brand name. Still in business outside Boone, NC, and has a frame building school (TIG welded).
unless you are an experienced welded, i would not expect someone to become proficient at TIG welding in one week (Iíve taken the class).
At NAHBS in Charlotte, he built a frame in his booth, during the show. I saw an unpainted steel BREW decimate the field in a triathlon.

Also in NC, Mills Brothers. Indianapolis also has Five Points, with interesting frame designs.
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Originally Posted by Doug Fattic View Post
He was able to observe frames built at Oscar Wastyn Cycles in Chicago (the shop still sells bicycles). Emil Wastyn came from Belgium before the turn of the century and his son Oscar built the 1st Schwinn Paramounts in the 30ís. .
https://waterfordbikes.com/w/culture...e-early-years/

Emil Wastyn was an active builder in the 1930s and worked a lot with Schwinn, to include first Paramounts. I was lucky enough to have one of his bikes as a loaner when my Ď65 Schwinn Continental crashed out. Emil was also a famous six day mechanic and his connections to Euro riders, builders, mfrs were very important to Schwinn and to the ongoing success of Wastyn Cycles.

One part of the story has to be that there was a huge gulf between Oscarís generation and Albertís generation. The hippies really did not want to connect with the past, wanted to do it all themselves starting from nothing. Everyone was eager to get a little piece of Albertís limited time when Oscar and Brilando and Magnani had the door wide open, hoping someone would walk in. Chicago in 60s was in a lot of ways a European city and cycling almost existed here. Schwinn and Wastyn survived and did what they could.
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Originally Posted by Doug Fattic View Post
Who is Primus Mootry Sr?

I remember painting the Cherry bike Steve posted (#61) that he saw on the Hilly Hundred.
Mr. Mootry (Sr.) built frames with pragmatism in mind. As a minority businessman, inventor, and entrepreneur in the plains states, he faced obstacles in several areas. Some of his frames had rear-facing dropouts but also RD hangers, long before the fixed gear phase. He built with Aluminum as far as I know, oval tubing in the early 80ís aero style.

Social norms at the time probably limited his exposure, along with his interest in a myriad of projects and issues. His son tends to dominate the results of on-line searches, but Primus Sr. was possibly one of those modern (sic) Renaissance Man geniuses that never really saw exposure, for various reasons.

I have little doubt his frames will become collectorís items.
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Originally Posted by Doug Fattic View Post
Who is Primus Mootry Sr?

I remember painting the Cherry bike Steve posted (#61) that he saw on the Hilly Hundred.
Do you know the Fiorini brothers? Chris built frames and also painted. Not sure what Tony does now, but he raced. Chris is connected to Paramount, Buell, and I think H-D.
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Chris Kvale does beautiful file work on the lugs on his frames. Nicely thinned. The building where his shop was located burned and it has taken some time to get it back to functioning again. He reports its progress periodically on the CR list.
Kvale’s building was burned intentionally by rioting arsonists. Here’s hoping he gets back, if he wants,to. I haven’t seen if any arrests were made.

@cuda2k had a great thread on the build Kvale did for him. He posted it from idea to design to finishedbike.

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