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drop bar w/classic bend and shorter reach?

Old 12-14-21, 07:23 PM
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Old 12-14-21, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
BTW, I think there's something to be said for a short stem and long-reach bars. Yes, it looks a bit goofy, or at least not very modern. But the longer ramps can give you a very comfortable position behind the hoods, assuming the bars don't have a weird shape that precludes it. And when you have chosen the right stem extension to put the hoods and drops in the right place, having the bar tops a little further back lets you sit up a little more when you want that. I'm really happy with the 80mm stem + B115 handlebars on my rando bike for those reasons.
Trek did this on a few bikes, at least for the catalog shots. 1984 560. It has a nice gesture in this side view.

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Old 12-14-21, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
BTW, I think there's something to be said for a short stem and long-reach bars. Yes, it looks a bit goofy, or at least not very modern. But the longer ramps can give you a very comfortable position behind the hoods, assuming the bars don't have a weird shape that precludes it. And when you have chosen the right stem extension to put the hoods and drops in the right place, having the bar tops a little further back lets you sit up a little more when you want that. I'm really happy with the 80mm stem + B115 handlebars on my rando bike for those reasons.
Oh, I don't think it looks goofy to have a short stem. Maybe in the 50 or 60mm range it does. In that case, a rider does what it has to to get a good fit. Otoh, one could slide the seat forward a bit with or without a zero offset stem. My wife's Schwinn Mesa Runner has 60mm SR quill, but it's too short in height (for my needs) and it really does look like a stub.....although somehow it works aesthetically with her upright cruiser bars.
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Old 12-14-21, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Trek did this on a few bikes, at least for the catalog shots. 1984 560. It has a nice gesture in this side view.

Oh man...those just look odd....lol!! I'm not biased, though
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Looks like you've found what you're after.
Maybe. I did some poking around to get a better profile view, and really they look just like the Cinelli 64 you'd already suggested. Steep ramp and all. I was just tickled that indeed shorter reach classic bars are out there. And, that I discovered something I didn't know existed...haha
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Old 12-14-21, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Okay, I wasn't crazy, at least in this instance. Nitto made "LD" and "RD" versions of the B105, which had only 65mm reach. I wonder if these are what I have seen for sale in the past?

Scroll down about half-way to page 10: The catalogs of Japanese vintage bicycle

P.S. Universal Cycles's mfg number for the 37cm B105 is "B105-RD-370MM" -- if you're interested in a bar that narrow, you could contact them and see if it has the shorter reach: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=10113
I may contact them to see if they have the RD model. However, with 65mm reach they probably have no ramp at all. Sounds like a good dirt drop candidate if nothing else
37cm' s is way too narrow, though. 40mm is my limit.
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Old 12-14-21, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
BTW, I think there's something to be said for a short stem and long-reach bars. Yes, it looks a bit goofy, or at least not very modern. But the longer ramps can give you a very comfortable position behind the hoods, assuming the bars don't have a weird shape that precludes it. And when you have chosen the right stem extension to put the hoods and drops in the right place, having the bar tops a little further back lets you sit up a little more when you want that. I'm really happy with the 80mm stem + B115 handlebars on my rando bike for those reasons.
Yes. And this is a benefit that has been largely lost by the shift to threadless steerer tubes and stiffer modern frames with shorter chain stays, higher BBs and more drop from saddle to stem.

You have to have short reach bars and shallow drop because of where the stem clamp ends up. Putting hoods and drops in the same places with a classic round bar means taller, closer stem clamp which can be a good climbing grip and a comfortable spot for easy riding time.

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Old 12-14-21, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Looks like you've found what you're after.
Okay...I've decided I'll look for and get some of those Cinelli's or the Deda's. The ramp's not perfect, but the brake levers I'll be using will make up for that. Either Cane Creek SCR-5 or the SRAM S500's I have. And, I can tweak any of the camber a tad.
Bruce Gordon did as much on this bike with Cinelli's..



So, with the 80mm Technomic I have and either of the bars, that's around 165mm worth of the overall reach. My 55cm frame uses an 80mm stem and 95mm bar with the saddle set back a couple of cm's. I may not even need to use a zero offset post for the Schwinn, though.
Heh...Italian bars for the Columbus frame <<win!!>>
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Old 12-15-21, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by noobinsf View Post
My question for anyone who has the Nitto 174 (the "mini-noodles") -- Does the slight bend back toward the rider make that corner between the top and the ramp gradual enough to make it easy to thread through a quill stem clamp?
I had no trouble that I can remember, clamp slot on the outside of the bend does the trick.
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Old 12-15-21, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by thook View Post
<<ehem>>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/37262854981...40dbb4e560b8e4

(quietly leaves computer to go get another cup of coffee...)
That's a nice bar for sure. It's important to note that they measure outside to outside not center to center.
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Old 12-16-21, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CMAW View Post
There's a great Fairweather/Nitto bar with a classic shape but compact drop/reach dimensions, basically a compact version of the noodle (some curve-back and 25,4 clamp):


https://www.santucci-cycles.com/prod...v=3a52f3c22ed6

Unfortunately, these seem to be sold out everywhere. I ordered two some time ago and regret not having ordered a couple more, they're the perfect fit for me. Fairweather is the house brand of a Japanese shop, Blue Lug. Might be worth asking them if they're considering putting in a new order with Nitto in the near future.
That Fairweather looks pretty nice, but the real old Maes bends had the hood/top (called ramps?) area parallel to the bottom flat section, called the drop. The bend of the bar made a near 180 degree total bend. What's better is a matter of taste but if one really wants a MAES, I'd suggest Ebaying for a vintage GB MAES bend, at least to look at.
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Found these. No bling points, but certainly a bit cheaper.....

https://www.modernbike.com/dimension...ndlebar-silver
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