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verktyg 12-16-21 04:02 AM

Clipped Dropout Ends
 

Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 22340366)
Good kludge option with the drewed dropouts. I like the painted end embellishment, too.

Not painted... I Photoshopped the photo to show how much material I removed... If anyone notices my handy work, "GET AWAY FROM MY BIKE YOU PERV..." :troll:


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...12113bd87c.jpg
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verktyg :50:

gaucho777 12-16-21 09:06 AM

@verktyg Copy that. When I viewed your post the first time on my small small with my bad eyes it wasn’t as obvious as it appears to me know. Although, painting the filed tips might not be a bad idea for rust prevention. Thanks.

repechage 12-16-21 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 22341439)
How would you compare the handling/steering/ride of the 68 vs the 72/73 ?

The '68 is a much longer bike. Actually not as entertaining as the later '72, the earlier bike a better all day machine.

panzerwagon 12-17-21 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 22341991)
The '68 is a much longer bike. Actually not as entertaining as the later '72, the earlier bike a better all day machine.

Cheers. I've been contemplating/resisting buying a frameset from '68, and wondered about the geometry changes across those early years. Most websites dwell largely upon the cosmetic changes, which whilst being informative enough, mostly useless for estimating ride differences.

repechage 12-18-21 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 22343801)
Cheers. I've been contemplating/resisting buying a frameset from '68, and wondered about the geometry changes across those early years. Most websites dwell largely upon the cosmetic changes, which whilst being informative enough, mostly useless for estimating ride differences.

there are not too many of them!
the earlier bikes have a longer top tube for a given size, longer chainstays also.
I have to double check the front end geometry- I think pretty close. I was busy yesterday so only “ eyeballed “ it.
also slightly more clearance for tires.

frames that are very small or very tall would have to be compared separately.
I do have a very small ‘72, Ernesto on this example did slacken the steering angle.
part of the design was to pass the UCI regs at the time- those regs really were against short people.

brooklyn_bike 02-13-22 07:27 PM

thank you for the informative post gaucho777 ! i have a similar early 80s colnago superissimo and recently scored the same strada bianca 700 x 30 tires (but clincher) on craigslist. i was able to squeeze them in using the technique you outlined : angling the faces of a washer for the rear brake . nice wide tires help smooth out some of the rougher paths and the occasional dirt / gravel roads

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96efc9fc79.jpg

Lord Donnington 06-14-23 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 22340744)
I have Masi bikes from a number of eras, and Colnagos from two.
The Colnago was a bike I avoided for over 40 years.
my first was a ‘72 Super.
very entertaining bike.
I have a ‘73 that is basically the same save in a grail color, “electric blue”
the last is actually earlier and more Masi like, a 1968 but the steering is a wee bit different.

Colnago somewhere about 1980-81 updated their geometry again, rear triangle gets a bit shorter and so does the top tube for a given size I have observed.

the Masi Nuova Strada from what I have seen seems to have been a Colnago clone almost from the same era.

John,
This is my 1972 Colnago Super. Would this be the electric blue you are referring to? One photo is from when the Colnago was purchased from The Spoke in 1972 and the other is after a mid-90’s repaint/retro mod.

-Scott
Savannah

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repechage 06-14-23 11:09 PM

The respray is different for sure, digital color fidelity is not something to trust.

Lord Donnington 06-15-23 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 22923795)
The respray is different for sure, digital color fidelity is not something to trust.

Would you share a photo of your electric blue ‘73 Colnago? I want to see if mine is close or if you are referring to the enamel Nuovo Blue like JB’s ‘73 Colnago with the chrome head lugs.

repechage 06-16-23 04:35 PM

Finally some sun.
no metallic in this color.
this has original paint.
first saw one in 1973- was unobtanium
Joe Bell notes he uses the same color for this and Gios Blue- sprayed over a different color of primer.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a1ff2b92.jpeg

Lord Donnington 06-19-23 05:30 AM

Colnago blue
 

Originally Posted by repechage (Post 22925816)
Finally some sun.
no metallic in this color.
this has original paint.
first saw one in 1973- was unobtanium
Joe Bell notes he uses the same color for this and Gios Blue- sprayed over a different color of primer.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a1ff2b92.jpeg

Joe is painting my ‘79 Gios now and told me that it’s the same blue as Colnago blue only on the Gios it is over brick red primer and on the Colnago it is over a white base coat. Yours is the same color as JB’s blue ‘73 Pantografata. I will take more photos of it when I pick up my Gios in August.

My ‘71/‘72 Colnago has must be the electric blue or candy blue color. It’s a deep blue. Later they had the Nuovo Blue color which was lighter.

repechage 06-19-23 07:39 AM

Digital color has no fidelity.
I own a Gios (actually three, two in desperate need of respray)
the Blues on both bikes are very similar, no candy, pearl, or metallic, the paint does have some translucence obviously, the reason why the undercoat effects the final outcome so readily.

Maserati has a current high chroma blue as seen on the new M20. I have seen those cars streak by, want to look up close.

I think race bikes should have high chroma colors.


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