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Old 01-20-22, 02:18 PM
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Eroica California 2022-help.

I signed up and was registered for the last Eroica California, which was then canceled by Covid as it was the following year. It looks like it is now on for 2022, but I cannot find any way on their website to either call an organizer or email them to find out if they still have my previous registration, which I understood was still good and should allow my participation in this years Eroica California.

Has anyone else had this issue come up and if so how were you able to get an answer from the organizers that your previous registration is still on record and you are registered for the 2022 Eroica California or that you are not and need to re-register?

I'm getting a vintage bike ready to ride and am about to book lodging, but if they no longer have or honor my prior registration, whose paper work is ???, then I'll need to re-register.

Thanks for your help.

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Thanks repechage so it's sign up and "you pay your money, you take your chances".

It's still a good reason to ride the trainer through the winter.

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https://www.myeroica.cc/login/login.php

Do you have an Eroica account? I think it’s required to register for the ride. When you log in, it should show your registration. Mine is showing carried over from 2020 to 2022. Be advised the website is very slow right now and took me a couple of tries to get through.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
https://www.myeroica.cc/login/login.php

Do you have an Eroica account? I think it’s required to register for the ride. When you log in, it should show your registration. Mine is showing carried over from 2020 to 2022. Be advised the website is very slow right now and took me a couple of tries to get through.
Ditto. If you have a registration then you have an account. Just sign in and see if your registration is there. If you lost your password just go through the usual lost password rigamarole.

Even before going through that hassle you might want to search your emails for the original registration and the notifications that the dates had changed.
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+1 for both Spaghetti Legs and Davester. Your "My Eroica" page should answer your question. (Note, however. that the key word in that sentence is "should.")
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Well, well, well, I think I can report some good news.

I returned and finally got logged in with a new password, where I found I had in my cart a code number, and then when I went to "Registration Summary/History" I found I was registered for the 2022 May 1st, Piedras Blancas Route-35 miles which was the route I had previously, years ago, signed up for.

So it looks like I'm OK???

Didn't mention the banquet dinner which I had also signed up for with my wife, any thoughts on how to check that out? Or, just re-sign up if I can find where it is offered?

Final signed up for the Category 3 Concurs and will bring one bike, hopefully judges and attendees will help me answer the mystery of who made this one of bike.
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I will be riding this mid-70s one of San Sport, though the Panasonic Team America sorely tempts me, however...



...with the Sanow Sport I can move beyond a 43Tx28T as I have a 14T-32T freewheel coming for the SunShine Pro-Am rear hub on the Sanow Sport and I can swap out the Shimano Black Dura Ace 1st Gen. short rear derailleur for this long Shimano Dura Ace Black 1st Gen rear derailleur which should work well with the 32T on the freewheel.
Yes, the black drilled 52T front chain ring has been removed, there was no way that I am going to drive it, and instead I have a VERY compact double 43T-39T, if anyone knows of a way to get under a 39T chainring on a 5 hole crank do let me know, but consensus is 39T is a low as they go for this crank set up.
Now it's get on the trainer and start the interval training.
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Originally Posted by since6
if anyone knows of a way to get under a 39T chainring on a 5 hole crank do let me know, but consensus is 39T is a low as they go for this crank set up.
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We know a guy if you're ok with making it a triple. I think you could make a compact double out of it as well.
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They also sell 38 tooth 130 bcd rings. Just a tooth, but hey, you asked.
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if anyone knows of a way to get under a 39T chainring on a 5 hole crank do let me know, but consensus is 39T is a low as they go for this crank set up.
Are you married to that crank for some reason? A 110bcd crank would solve your problems.
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We know a guy if you're ok with making it a triple. I think you could make a compact double out of it as well.
Red Clover triplizers (and Jon) are great and I recommend them highly. But according to my memory and their website, Red Clover only makes them for 144mm (Campy) and 122mm (Stronglight) bolt center diameter cranks, so there is no red Clover product for a 130mm bcd (39 tooth smallest chainwheel) crankset, which is what the OP appears to have. If there was, I'd say buy it (and get the needed longer bottom bracket axle) and be all set.

Others do make tripilizers for 130mm bcd cranks, however. I just googled "130mm bcd triplizer" and came up with this, which sounds almost too good to be true. That price sounds suspiciously low, it's intended for 9sp, and it's in Spain but promises deiivery in a week or less. Ya pays y'r money and ya takes y'r chances.
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I don't think the PB route is hilly and since you are willing to do interval training between now and mid April, You'll be fine. Bike looks great (and greater when you shorten the brake cables)
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I don't think the PB route is hilly and since you are willing to do interval training between now and mid April, You'll be fine.
PB route (out to the lighthouse and back) is what we'd call flat in the PNW. It's basically rolling hills, probably keep it in the big ring the whole way.
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Thanks all for your thoughts and comments, which have led me down some interesting avenues.



Why not swap out cranks?



This was an early bike as I began to collect vintage Japanese bikes. It has an interesting story, as much as I could find.

Here’s what I’ve found out.



Earliest Back Story on Sanow Sport (from the internet)

Sannow Sport was an established shop in Japan going back at lease to the 1960s wherein the Sannow Sports catalog were sold, as an original brand, the Eminenza and Santa Rosa bicycle. Their catchphrase was “La joie de vivre”, joy of living.

Mr. Nagatoshi Takahashi the shopkeeper later in 1974 wrote a book “The Method of Riding at Road Racing”, one of which came up for sale and I did not pull the trigger on, and so a niggling regret.

For more information you can do a Google search under “Sannow Sport Mr. Nagatoshi Takahashi” which will take you to these two internet sites where you can find the aforementioned early Sannow Sport catalogs, but in Japanese.




Part 16: Sannow Sports in 1960s - The catalogs of ...

https://cyclespeugeot.web.fc2.com › sannow60s



Here is the catalog of Sannow Sports in 1960s. ... of riding at road racing" which was written in 1974 by Mr. Nagatoshi Takahashi who was a shopkeeper.

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Part 110: Sannow Sports in 1965(?) - The catalogs of ...

https://cyclespeugeot.web.fc2.com › sannow65



Mr. Nagatoshi Takahashi was a person who enormously contributed for cycling and bicycle competition. He had written a novel which came from his experience ...





Mid-Back Story on Sanow Sport(from bike forum post)

Next in my effort to understand this bike I found a Bike Forum post by Member 2frmMI wherein he describes in 1984-85 having found Sannow Sport bike shop in Tokyo where he met Mr. Takahashi-san. In addition to describing the Sannow Sport bike shop he explained the process of his purchase of a Sannow Sport bicycle by having himself measured for a frame build and picking out the running gear for the build, his selection mostly Suntour Superbe, for a bike he picked up in two weeks and then assembled upon return to Seattle. His description matches my thoughts on how this bike was likely created and spec’ed out.

Sanow Sport–MiKi/Mikki-Centurion Professional(from bike forum post & the internet)

After winning the bidding for this bike I posted for information about it on the Classic Vintage forum and again a Member cdmurphy helped with background and dating from the stamped serial number on this frame with manufacture date around June of 1976. Cdmurphy noted how the Sannow Sport was nearly identical to the Centurion Professional he owned, and explained that the Sannow Sport was likely to have been built by the same builder as the Centurion Professional, Miki or Mikki, a contract builder in Sakai, Japan (suburb of Osaka). Comparing his Centurion Professional to my Sannow Sport they are remarkably similar with only differences in a chromed fast back seat stay and partially chromed seat post lug. I wonder if the single water bottle braze on, on the down tube, were part of the customer’s order for this bike?

“Do No Harm”-Someone’s Dream Bike

Given the history discussed above I feel confident that this was like 2frmMI’s bicycle a, one of, special order through Sanow Sport of someone’s dream bike. He chose Tange’s best “Champion” tubing as well as Mavic tubular rims, Shimano Black Dura Ace 1st Gen. components, SunShine Pro-Am low flange hubs (excellent excellent hubs), Sugino Mighty cranks and a Cinelli Unicanitor #3 Buffalo Hide saddle in near mint condition.

Other than chipped paint and silk sew ups which still hold air, but no way could you ride, a little cleaning and wax and this is as beautiful as the day it was picked up.

But to ride it I’ve had to make changes: stem and seat post to fit my body, clip on pedals to preserve my aging knees, modern saddle that fits my body (but Cinelli Unicanitor saved and contributed to another vintage build) and classic styled Japanese non-tubular rims.

While I really don’t want to make more changes than current plans to swap out the rear freewheel to get 32T along with a long arm Shimano Black Dura Ace 1st Gen. derailleur to keep the Gruppo intact, and classic Kool Stop brake pads, as has been mentioned and suggested by cdmurphy it would do no harm to swap out the Sugino Mighty cranks for period correct 110BCD Sigino Mighty Tour cranks and gain access to a 34T inner ring. So be it.

A vintage bike is many things, a moment in technology, a doorway to bike shop windows we never could do more than look through, but here in this bike there is a ghost, another’s dream realized, and I it’s caretaker in every ride.

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No sooner than I had posted the above and I went to look and found this:



Yes, a 110bcd Sugino Mighty Tour crank arm set with bottom bracket and it's even had its insets painted black, matching the Black Dura Ace Gruppo, sigh but the cost, then looked at the cost of similar Superbe sets OMG.

Then came the moment of clarity and why she is the best tandem stoker, Miata navigator and life companion.

Me: I found the fix...
She: Did you buy it?
Me: Mumble Mumble the price...
She: How much was it?
Me: $$
She: My God that's less than we spend on a week's groceries, get it.



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Originally Posted by gugie
PB route (out to the lighthouse and back) is what we'd call flat in the PNW. It's basically rolling hills, probably keep it in the big ring the whole way.
I remember it as a bit flatter than rolling hills. As everyone who has ridden with me as I drag myself up a hill with a triple crankset and a big rear cog knows, I am a pathetic climber, and I did the lighthouse ride with a 49-42 double and a 13-28 cassette.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(...) I just googled "130mm bcd triplizer" and came up with this, which sounds almost too good to be true. That price sounds suspiciously low, it's intended for 9sp, and it's in Spain but promises deiivery in a week or less. Ya pays y'r money and ya takes y'r chances.
Thanks for that link. Nice. I checked out the shop, and it looks legit, although reviews are bit of a mixed bag. They are in the EU, so expect taxes, import duties and whatnot to be added when shipping to the US. They also sell a Specialités TA version, which is considerably more expensive but shifts better, according to a local specialist (scroll down and use Google to translate).
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I just did quite a bit of riding on the coast up there last weekend and the steepest climb is on the tail end of the route(which a lot of folks skipped!). It is the hill just before the left turn on to Main St. , the back way or Southern most way into town. It is long and I did it with a 42/28 on my Medici. It is not a super steep climb but pretty long. That said, I think most can do it with a standard double 52/42 and a FW with a 26 or 28 low. If I can do it ….it ain’t bad!
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Thanks for the encouragement on the route. I am battling pandemic weight gain and a bad left knee. I will only have a short time to regain form as, crossed fingers, I hope to see my four granddaughters in France in two weeks for the first time in three years. So we are walking LOTS and won't resume riding until I get back, the end of February, again crossed fingers.
So if I over kill in setting up the bike and never need it that would be the best of all outcomes, but I do appreciate your letting me know that other than the prevailing coast wind I will not be going into the rock crusher. Thanks.
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Thanks for that link. Nice. I checked out the shop, and it looks legit, although reviews are bit of a mixed bag. They are in the EU, so expect taxes, import duties and whatnot to be added when shipping to the US. They also sell a Specialités TA version, which is considerably more expensive but shifts better, according to a local specialist (scroll down and use Google to translate).
I didn't see the TA one. If I were in the market for a 130mm bcd triplizer, I think I'd sring for the TA. Their other recent chainrings are good quality and I'd expect this to be as well. The other one may be just fine, but it is an unknown quantity. As I said, ya pays y'r money and ya takes y'r chances.
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Thanks for the encouragement on the route. I am battling pandemic weight gain and a bad left knee. I will only have a short time to regain form as, crossed fingers, I hope to see my four granddaughters in France in two weeks for the first time in three years. So we are walking LOTS and won't resume riding until I get back, the end of February, again crossed fingers.
So if I over kill in setting up the bike and never need it that would be the best of all outcomes, but I do appreciate your letting me know that other than the prevailing coast wind I will not be going into the rock crusher. Thanks.
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You can do it. As kabuki12 says, the toughest climb on the Pierdos Blancas route is the last climb, it isn't that bad and it can avoided completely if you aren't feeling the love.

Also, never underestimate what you can climb using the two-foot granny gear.

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Yea , I have one of the newer TA 41 small rings on my Colnago with a 144BCD and it seems like a real good quality. I don’t use the small ring that much but after almost a year and a half there is hardly any wear. As far as I know they are the only ones that make the 41 for the old Campy SR cranks. I don’t know what they cost , my bike came with it.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
You can do it. As kabuki12 says, the toughest climb on the Pierdos Blancas route is the last climb, it isn't that bad and it can avoided completely if you aren't feeling the love.

Also, never underestimate what you can climb using the two-foot granny gear.

See you there.
yea, nothin’ like the old Paso climbing . Right, Rich? Shorter but more vertical on gravel, oh what fun we had. I miss those fun times, just another stroll in the park.
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