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Old 03-08-22, 10:36 PM
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Sharing a charming Australian find

Couldn't resist this Cecil Walker, seems to be labeled 'Super Corsa' on the top tube. It's my first Campagnolo setup with the gum rubber still attached. The components were well worth the price of admission. I've never seen lug lining on the top edge of the lug. It almost looks like it would be harder than the usual method. I am not sure what tubing it's built from and the cranks are dated 1981. A different seat, pedals, and bar tape and I think it will be just right (albeit a little small for me). Maybe a seat binder bolt. Nice patina but it does seem to have yellow paint under the red, which seems a little odd. Anybody with Cecil Walker knowledge, I'd appreciate any info.







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I must ask...did you search for "Cecil Walker bicycles" on the interwebs before posting?

Having never heard of the marque, I did and am blown away by what can be found.

You may have stumbled upon quite a piece there. Congrats.

Oh and the lug lining is sweet.

https://theradavist.com/2013/04/beau...ack-with-zipp/

https://rustybikebell.wordpress.com/...ker-ten-speed/

https://retroride.blogspot.com/2007/...r-on-ebay.html
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Cecil Walker was a professional American cyclist who ended up living in Australia (Melbourne) and opened a bicycle store which is still operating.

Up until probably last decade you could still buy Cecil Walker steel frames, either off the shelf or custom. They used a variety of frame builders over the years, the most well known probably being Kevin Wigham who also built frames under Paconi and Blucher Koln badges throughout the 80's and into the 90's. They also put their badge on some cheap import frames, but this isn't one of them.

Unfortunately as far as I'm aware they don't keep records of their frames - but don't let that stop you trying!

Looks like a 70's frame to me, possibly earlier - looks in excellent condition given its age!

I'd love to know the story of how a Cecil Walker ended up in Seattle, assuming that's where you found it.
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Old 03-09-22, 06:40 AM
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I suspect the frame is about a decade older than 1981 based on long rear dropouts, exposed brake nuts and lack of shift lever or bottle braze-ons

If you remove the fork, the steering column may be stamped with the tubing manufactuer's logo. That would be the case if was a high grade tubeset from Columbus, Ishiwata or Tange. If there is nothing and the seat post is in the 27.0 to 27.2mm range, then it's likely Reynolds.

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Originally Posted by cheffyjay View Post
but it does seem to have yellow paint under the red, which seems a little odd.
Possible zinc chromate primer (???), or actual paint?
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Yup the yellow gold primer gives the red top coat its' lustre. Still in nice shape too.
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very stylish frame, and yes that lug lining takes a very steady hand!
Thanks for sharing the pix.

Maybe when the storms/flooding die down you can check with Greg Softley for decals. I'd guess he'd be the one to stock those, if anybody does.
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this type of lug lining is fairly common on cycles from France and also somewhat from Belgium


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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
Cecil Walker was a professional American Australian cyclist who ended up left Australia to race in America before returning to living live in Australia (Melbourne) and opened a bicycle store which is still operating.
see https://cecilwalker.com.au/pages/about-us
It seems last weekend's ride into the wind was a bit much for one!

More information on Cecil Walker frames can be found at these links

The thread title is jarring: Austrailian is not how an Australian would spell their nationality.

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Originally Posted by Big Block View Post
see https://cecilwalker.com.au/pages/about-us
It seems last weekend's ride into the wind was a bit much for one!
Oops! I shouldn't rely on my memory, but thanks for the correction.
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... The thread title is jarring: Austrailian is not how an Australian would spell their nationality.
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^ If there was a vote tomorrow for which song should be Australia's national anthem, I reckon that would win it.

...that or Khe Sanh.
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ooops, ugh. that spelling/typo is enough to make me delete the thread!
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Don't bother it's nothing budd. I've had to delete far worse.
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Beautiful detailing on "top" of the lugs.
Nice find, Best, Ben
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Originally Posted by cheffyjay View Post
Couldn't resist this Cecil Walker, seems to be labeled 'Super Corsa' on the top tube. It's my first Campagnolo setup with the gum rubber still attached. The components were well worth the price of admission. I've never seen lug lining on the top edge of the lug. It almost looks like it would be harder than the usual method. I am not sure what tubing it's built from and the cranks are dated 1981. A different seat, pedals, and bar tape and I think it will be just right (albeit a little small for me). Maybe a seat binder bolt. Nice patina but it does seem to have yellow paint under the red, which seems a little odd. Anybody with Cecil Walker knowledge, I'd appreciate any info.








In the words of an Aussie icon no longer with us , CRIKEY !!! Would you look at that !!!!!!
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Crikey! Would you look at that.

What a great bike. Congratulations.
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
^ If there was a vote tomorrow for which song should be Australia's national anthem, I reckon that would win it.

...that or Khe Sanh.
And I thought it would be Friday On My Mind by the Easybeats!
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Originally Posted by cheffyjay View Post
Couldn't resist this Cecil Walker....


You beat me by about an hour when I reached out to the seller. I don't know how it was advertised so long before either of us jumped on it.
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The thread title is jarring: Austrailian is not how an Australian would spell their nationality.
How bout "Strine" or "Stryne" or even "Ocker"?

Australian English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English



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Flamboyant Paint

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Yup the yellow gold primer gives the red top coat its' lustre. Still in nice shape too.
In the UK and to a lesser degree in France that was called Flamboyant paint... A dyed transparent lacquer was applied on top of a usually gold, silver or white base coat. It can be difficult applying the paint in a uniform thickness so it all looks the same color.

A lot of French and British bikes came with that kind of paint from the 60's into the early 80's.

In the US it was called "Candy Apple" as in Candy Apple Red.... Very popular on hot rods and custom cars in the 1950's and 60's



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"Strine" or "Stryne" or even "Ocker" are not used by Australians. All obsolete.
It was a spelling mistake that I found jarring. Much like if I was to spell American as Americian.

And I can well understand why he gave you that hat.
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Collingwood is a working-class suburb and the Collingwood Football Club supporter base traditionally came from the working class (though its supporter base today goes far beyond). Many of the club's supporters who regularly attend games still come from the working class or from lower socio-economic groups, leading to jokes from supporters of other clubs which typically stereotype their Collingwood counterparts as poor, crude and ignorant.[47]

Collingwood is traditionally reviled by non-Collingwood supporters ("You either love 'em or you hate 'em"). The dislike of the club by outsiders is said to have originated during the 1920s and 1930s, a period of great success for the club which drew the envy and resentment of other clubs. In this period, Collingwood was also perceived as a Catholic and Irish club, at a time when these groups were looked down upon by the rest of Australian society and subjected to a considerable degree of social exclusion.[48][49]"
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All this talk is giving me a craving for a Vegemite sandwich!
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