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Old 03-13-22, 11:17 AM
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1969 URAGO Cattaneo

I bought this frame from AndyK in 2018 and I finally got around to restoring it. I think this frame was involved in a three way deal with gugie? I had the frame refinished in an off white color and added the lug and box lining myself. Aniceto Cattaneo was an Italian frame builder who moved to Nice, France. He built high end frames under his own name as well as for larger manufactures such as Urago. This frame has lots of nice details including Aniento's trademark extended spearpoint on the fork crown. I tried to keep it as French as possible, but had some setbacks with French stems and headsets. I wound up going with a Cinelli bar and stem. The steerer on this frame easily accepts a 22.2mm stem. The wheels were on the bike when Andy Kaylor bought it. At some point, I will build another set of wheels around French hubs. Thanks to Rudi Mayr for the cool head badge, which I painted up as well! The roads are still too dirty for me to give it a try. Hopefully, in about a month.....






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Very nice!
How did you do the lug and box lining- it’s great!
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WOW!

Fantastic, great work as usual, I think this makes you Andy "JT" Antipas.
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That Urago exchanged hands at the Seattle Bike Swap in 2018. If I look confused, it's because of the three-way trade that @Andy_K fleshed out. I'm still wondering what the bike to be named later is/was.



Andy and I knew that Urago was special the moment we saw it. You did right by it!
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
That Urago exchanged hands at the Seattle Bike Swap in 2018. If I look confused, it's because of the three-way trade that @Andy_K fleshed out. I'm still wondering what the bike to be named later is/was.



Andy and I knew that Urago was special the moment we saw it. You did right by it!
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"unknown to be named later" likely some utility infielder from the Cardinals farm system


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thanks so much for sharing this great beauty

also owned a 1969 Urago which was bespoke built for the U.S. Olympian Bill Best

it was built by an artisan whos name was pronounced to me as "Brookie" so it may have been something such as Brouquis; have never seen it written

he was shortly thereafter spirited away by MICMO to construct the true team machines for equipe Gitane

my example had this same distinctive crown

it did not have a headplate, foil transfer used instead

suspect headplate worn by your example may have been discontinued by this date

your transfer set much nicer than my example, they were all tacky looking foil things with knightsheads

colour of my example was opague powder blue - similar to Falcon team/house colour


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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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"unknown to be named later" likely some utility infielder from the Cardinals farm system


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thanks so much for sharing this great beauty

also owned a 1969 Urago which was bespoke built for the U.S. Olympian Bill Best

it was built by an artisan whos name was pronounced to me as "Brookie" so it may have been something such as Brouquis; have never seen it written

he was shortly thereafter spirited away by MICMO to construct the true team machines for equipe Gitane

my example had this same distinctive crown

it did not have a headplate, foil transfer used instead

suspect headplate worn by your example may have been discontinued by this date

your transfer set much nicer than my example, they were all tacky looking foil things with knightsheads

colour of my example was opague powder blue - similar to Falcon team/house colour


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juvela before I started the restoration, I spent time searching for information about Uragos and reached out to people who were familiar with them. There isn't a lot of information out there. The Cattaneo and the spearpoint is fairly well known and recognized as his "trademark". I'm interested in learning more about the person who built your frame. Maybe he worked in Cattaneo's shop making a name for himself and going on to achieve great things, but that is just a guess. I'm sure Ernesto Colnago didn't build many of his frames, but he had folks like Rossin who went on and became well known. When I was trying to decide on what color to go with, I was looking for photographs of Uragos. There is a relatively small handful of Urago photos on the internet. The foil decals many manufactures used back then were nasty for sure. Again, there aren't a lot of Urago decal choices in the bicycle aftermarket. Since the frame had no decals when I got it, I picked decals I thought I could work with. Thank you for the kind words and sharing your Urago story.
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Old 03-13-22, 06:01 PM
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Beautiful bike. Very tasty restoration!
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I just posted about my Allegro restoration and someone said that they thought that they looked at the same thread twice. You did beautiful work with yours. I think we may have been visited by the same muse on our color schemes.
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Old 03-13-22, 07:57 PM
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Cool

Wow! Uncanny!

Great Minds think alike!

Nicely done!

Originally Posted by Sactown_Albert View Post
I just posted about my Allegro restoration and someone said that they thought that they looked at the same thread twice. You did beautiful work with yours. I think we may have been visited by the same muse on our color schemes.
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Originally Posted by Sactown_Albert View Post
I just posted about my Allegro restoration and someone said that they thought that they looked at the same thread twice. You did beautiful work with yours. I think we may have been visited by the same muse on our color schemes.
Not even in the same ballpark as the ones here, but I did something similar on a 72 Fuji.



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Originally Posted by sd5782 View Post
Not even in the same ballpark as the ones here, but I did something similar on a 72 Fuji.



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That pantographing is the bomb! This is a great looking bike. I just stuck to the original colors.
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Old 03-16-22, 08:47 PM
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I cannot believe this headbadge haha. It looks like something Shepard Fairey would create.
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Did you use the KingArt pen to do the lug lining on the Urago? or did you use a brush?
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Based on personal experience, and basic stress analysis, I have reservations about radial spoking, but that Urago is gorgeous.
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Did you use the KingArt pen to do the lug lining on the Urago? or did you use a brush?
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Yep. Kingart pen,
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Based on personal experience, and basic stress analysis, I have reservations about radial spoking, but that Urago is gorgeous.
These wheels were on the bike when Andy K bought it. I have no experience with radial spoked wheels, but I understand your reservations. I have them too. I'm using chubby tubulars, which should make life a little easier for the hub flanges and spokes. The hub locknuts have a 1974 date code. There are no historic witness marks that these hubs were used for a conventional cross pattern. I believe these hubs have always been laced radially. I don't anticipate putting large miles on this bike or wheels. I have other bikes for that. My long range plan is to build another set of wheels around French hubs and keep these wheels for the novelty of it all.

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Beautiful result, Andy! The color scheme and all details are spot-on - and that's still the most awesome fork crown I've personally ever laid eyes on. Good show

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URAGO Shakedown Ride

With the sun out and temps in the low 50s I thought I would give the URAGO a go. It road great, no issues, and no squealing MAFAC racer brakes either! I rode to Baker's Bridge, which is about 12 miles north of Durango and a popular road ride. The water in the Animas River was low and looked a bit like pea soup?


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It looks fantastic outdoors, thanks for sharing this gorgeous build. Rear wheel radial/ soldered and tied? Oh lala ...c'est la classe!
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What a beautiful restoration on your Urago! I'd love to see pics and hear the story of the process if you felt like writing it up.
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many readers know that the Sheffield line of bicycle components represents a product of a firm called Noli-Cattaneo

here is a document from the 1920's -



find meself wondering if it may be that the founder of Noli-Cattaneo was perchance a forbearer of Ancieto Cattaneo

possible this may have been covered on the CR email list...

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That is an absolutely wonderful bike! I have one of the original bikes that came out of Cattaneo's workshop, from 1962. Really cool bike too, with short Huret dropouts and soldered Universal 51 brakes.

There is a good CV on Cattaneo on an italian site, but I cannot link it because I am new here. You need to search for Aniceto Cattaneo and 'museociclismo'.

Same thing with pictures of my bike, not possible because I am new here (who made these rules?!?). You will find a flickr page when you search for 'aniceto cattaneo flickr' and scroll down to a user called 're do333'
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Juvela, the idea that this Cattaneo from Pavia could be the father of Aniceto Cattaneo is very interesting. Aniceto was born in Fiesco, not far away from Pavia, where your Cattaneo did business in?
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There is a good CV on Cattaneo on an italian site, but I cannot link it because I am new here. You need to search for Aniceto Cattaneo and 'museociclismo'.

Same thing with pictures of my bike, not possible because I am new here (who made these rules?!?). You will find a flickr page when you search for 'aniceto cattaneo flickr' and scroll down to a user called 're do333'
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from redo1's Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/189311961@N05/albums

Sorry about the rules about 10 posts before you can add pics, but before that was added this site was overrun by spam, I believe. Based on what I saw on your Flickr albums it looks like you'd be most welcome here! Just find a post of interest and comment on it. 10 posts isn't much. We want people here for the long haul, you'll meet some great vintage bicycling fans, and if you post your location you may get invited to some bike rides with those great people!

The other bike that @redo1 has on his Flickr site is a Crippa, a marque unknown to me. Perhaps you can comment on it? I'd bet that just answering questions that will come up on this thread will get you to 10 posts and picture post time quickly!

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