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Old 03-15-22, 12:52 PM
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Help! What year is my Frejus?

Hey ya'll,
I just picked this up at the Chicago Bike swap. The frame seems to be in great shape. The paint was stained but I was able to clean it up. Video coming soon.
However, I have no idea what year this thing is. Any help would be appreciated. Plus, its Reynolds but the 27.2 post is tight tight tight. Does anyone know the official size this thing takes. Thanks for your help in advance!

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Malaguti style seat lug is an Agrati item

seat binder is an addition made by manufacturer Bozzi

date estimate - ~1974


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Originally Posted by juvela View Post

Malaguti style seat lug is an Agrati item

seat binder is an addition made by manufacturer Bozzi

date estimate - ~1974

That seems plausible. I don't believe I've ever seen a 531 Frejus before the Emilio Bozzi buyout (late 60s?). The older ones were usually some variant of Columbus. Emilio Bozzi's group also owned Legnano and Wolsit; typically, bikes made under his ownership had a white or red decal under the seat cluster:

Does your Frejus have such a decal, or remnants of one?

Another clue to a later 60s-1970s date is the absence of a hole in the derailleur hanger. Older Campagnolo dropouts had a small hole over the hole for the derailleur hanger bolt; the hole was for the end of a spring on a rear derailleur of the period (the Sport? I can't remember), which was discontinued by the late 60s. Later dropouts left out the spring hole because it was no longer needed.

And another: Campagnolo cable router braze-ons on the bottom bracket shell were unusual until the late 60s. Before then, it was more common to find clamp-on routers, or sometimes cable housing stops on the NDS of the downtube, so that a bit of cable housing could be routed over the BB shell to the front derailleur

Traditionally, Frejus serial numbers were stamped vertically on the non-driveside face of the seat tube, below the seat cluster. I vaguely recall that earlier Legnanos did something similar; but by the 70s, the serial numbers for all the Bozzi companies were usually on the bottom bracket shell.

Finally, ClassicRendezvous has a list of Frejus serial numbers with estimated dates - it might make it possible to narrow down the date window.


As for the tight fit on the 27.2 seat post: It's possible that the seat tube wasn't reamed at the factory to fit a seatpost of that size; try a 27.0 and see how that fits. Also, take a look at the slot in the seat clamp; if the ends of the slot are closer together than the bottom, it's possible that the seatpost clamp got crimped through someone's brute-force effort to fit an undersized seat post. Careful use of an Origin8 threaded-to-threadless stem adapter to spread and re-round the seat tube clamp can work wonders; I've de-crimped two seat tubes this week through this method.

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1010/A dropouts were first in the #16 supplement catalog from 1971. Also, Ghelfi sold to Bozzi shortly after the war, production moved to Milano in the early 50s. There are still Torinese upset today about that.

Serial number on non-drive side of the seat tube would be helpful.
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What has been stated above. decal looks early '70's. Serial location on bottom bracket suggests same. Bozzi - post war/early 50's. Frejus and Legnano made in same factory (from Bozzi on?), or before. CondorinoMan has some great stuff on dating Legnano and Frejus bikes, and serial tracking. Gets weird after 1970.
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How do you know it's Reynolds? Steerer tube marked? I don't see any Reynolds decals. Braze-on guides on BB for shifter cables suggest no earlier than early '70s, along with aforementioned dropouts. It's quite possible that the proper seatpost is a 27.0 mm. My son has a nice (Carnielli) Bottechia from that time, and that's the size it takes.
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John, your frame appears to be the same as my circa 1972 Legnano mod Olympiade Record, except mine has chrome socks front and rear and chrome head lugs. It has the Bozzi decal, a Reynolds 531 decal, and all of its original Legnano decals. Unusual for a Legnano, it is black and white with original white hand painted box line striping, and has the same seat cluster and clamp as seen on your Frejus. It uses a 27.2 seat post.
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I have both a Frejus, and a Legnano from about this timeline, call it ‘69-‘73.

The Frejus I have is painted in the same lizard yellow color as the Legnano. It also has the same seat stay attachment as the Legnano, which differs from what the OP’s frame shows, which is more in line with what I’ve seen on other Frejus bikes of that era.

The Frejus also sports the Legnano style seat lug.

Both bikes have Reynolds frames and aside from the seat lug/stay attachment, most of the other frame details look the same as the OP’s frame.
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