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Old 03-26-22, 11:27 AM
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Maserati experts please....

Trying to figure out which model this is. Obviously the brake levers and rear mech are not original.






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I have owned one Maserati and tended to like it even though it was a tad small for me...



Have a look at this Maserati catalog. Perhaps it will be of help in identifying what you have.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
I have owned one Maserati and tended to like it even though it was a tad small for me...



Have a look at this Maserati catalog. Perhaps it will be of help in identifying what you have.
It is most like the mt-2 but has a contrasting head tube panel.
Also there is no model designation or even a ghost where letters might have been.
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I adjusted the contact points and put some flats on and it's awesome! Everything is campy except for rear derailleur and the aero levers.

Stem and bars are cinelli
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Now that you like it, give that drivetrain a thorough clean.
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Now that you like it, give that drivetrain a thorough clean.
I will clean but I may exchange a bit on the drivetrain. A 54" low gear is not my favorite hillclimb experience. It has a 14-21 freewheel that shifts beautifully and at some point I may put a nuovo record rear mech on so 14-26 is pretty much the limit but I may go with a t.a. or Stronglight to bring the top end down. It really feels good tho.
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this doesn't tell me much about the tubing but it's very light.
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In the bike boom years, I recall Road and Track doing a review of a fully Campy Maserati bike. They tested it like they would a car: acceleration, curb weight, etc.
Two things stood out in the review; they found it annoying that they had to pump up the latex tubed sew ups regularly and they thought the number of times the Campy logo or script was used was an example of “over styling.”
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@52telecaster

Not too many choices during the time period of that sticker, maybe 2-3 at the most?

Merz TW189 from 78 says SP on the build sheet and has that sticker.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Spadoni View Post
In the bike boom years, I recall Road and Track doing a review of a fully Campy Maserati bike. They tested it like they would a car: acceleration, curb weight, etc.
Two things stood out in the review; they found it annoying that they had to pump up the latex tubed sew ups regularly and they thought the number of times the Campy logo or script was used was an example of “over styling.”
R&T April 1974 issue. https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Maserati/RandT_Maserati_road_test.htm
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What is confusing me is the model names. This one has everything the mt2 had but no model name anywhere. It has a 27mm campy seatpost so I assume it's an excellent tubeset. It also has campy dropouts. The shifters are on braze on mounts and the contrasting head tube are anomalies. The wheelset has campy hubs and sun Mistral rims. Pretty sure the rims wouldn't have been stock.
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Are those brazed-on, metal letters making up the downtube moniker? To my eye, the photos are showing they're something more than simple decals.

Can't help with model ID, but am curious about this feature. Seems it would be something exclusive to the top-of-the-line model, though.

Nice bike! I particularly like the extremely clean brazing/finishing at the rear dropouts/stays.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Are those brazed-on, metal letters making up the downtube moniker? To my eye, the photos are showing they're something more than simple decals.

Can't help with model ID, but am curious about this feature. Seems it would be something exclusive to the top-of-the-line model, though.

Nice bike! I particularly like the extremely clean brazing/finishing at the rear dropouts/stays.

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It is in fact raised.
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Maserati made by........

I have a friend back in PA that has a Maserati and we have compared it to my mid 1970s Coppi Fiorelli.

It has been our guess that Fiorelli built the Maserati bicycles. Here are some pics of my bike.






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I have a friend back in PA that has a Maserati and we have compared it to my mid 1970s Coppi Fiorelli.

It has been our guess that Fiorelli built the Maserati bicycles. Here are some pics of my bike.






I'm on a gig right now but I totally forgot to look under the bottom bracket.
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That Time Road & Track Test Drove A Bicycle

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Raising Detailed Questions

Congratulation on and thank you for sharing your Maserati find!

I suspect it is a prototype or promotional "model" and thus not fitting into any neat line. It would be impractical for a production model to have brazed on raised lettering, (if in fact the lettering is brazed on?), and equally impractical for a racer to carry that weight. The MT-1 Model was not specified in the catalogs available online as they were all custom. I have no reason not to believe the prevailing opinion the upper level, top three or four depending on year, were built by Fiorelli.

Another reason I think yours is promotional or a prototype is Because I've never seen an example definitively predating 1972. As far I know, they ran from '72-'74. '74s had scalloped seat stay caps, and prior they were flat, like yours.

I suspect the tubing of your Maserati is Columbus SP, Because size, and 27.0 seat pillar. It looks to be like 62cm-ishy? (SP was used for builds ~58cm+, and takes a 27.0 mm seat post, while SL takes 27.2). And, according to this source, that particular Columbus decal was only used in 1971. Perhaps you can pull the forks and check for a Dove, and if you could, take a look up the steerer tube to verify five helical riflings, which would verify Columbus and either SL or SP tubing?

Would you please post photos of the frame details? Except for date codes, the componentry in this case have no bearing on identifying the frame. If you could, would you please remove them? The underside of the bottom bracket, cutouts in the lugs, (should there be any), reinforcements to the brake and chainstay bridges, the RD and FD cable routing guides brazed on the BB shell, and the undersides of the head tube and seat tube lugs?

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this doesn't tell me much about the tubing but it's very light.
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It is in fact raised.
But how is it raised"


(I picked up what I was told was a Maserati about five years ago. In the interim, I have come to believe it is a 1974 MT-1. I came to this conclusion by examining every example which I've come across anywhere, in person and online, and cataloging. I don't consider myself an expert, only modestly and moderately somewhat well acquainted with this marque. This I will say; with its low bottom bracket and interesting geometry, it has proven to be one of my favorite riders. It wants to go. It is stable. It is very comfortable. It will not suffer any weight on the rear, like say a rack. It compares favorably with my Rossin Ghibli, and Billato LeMond and so on. Others who have ridden it concur. It's not for sale. It also accommodates wide rubber!)

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Just finished a gig. I'll get more pics eventually.

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