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Short short-reach side pull brake?

Old 04-06-22, 07:51 PM
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Short short-reach side pull brake?

Looking for a pretty short short-reach brake for a mid 80s bike that I'm running a track fork on. Dura Ace 7400-10 are just a mil or two too long. Other ideas? I suppose it doesnt have to be a vintage brake..
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The shortest reach, era appropriate, side-pull calipers of which I'm aware, are the Dia-Compe Aero Gran Compe (the ones with the eccentric pad height adjustment). Their claimed reach range was 37-43mm. Dura-Ace 7400-49 (never heard of the -10 suffix) was a claimed 39-49mm. So, the AGC should provide the 2mm reach reduction for which you are searching.

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Old 04-07-22, 06:59 AM
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Nice info - thanks T-Mar!
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These or Bdop drop pads run upside down might also be an option.

​​​​​​https://www.amazon.com/Aican-Aluminu...0788QZBTP?th=1
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Try and shave the pad at an angle so it contacts the rim
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A little pricy but this is how it is done .
https://www.tracksupermarket.com/hac...no-clamps.html
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Universal AER calipers are similar to the Dia-Compe AGC @T-Mar mentions, with similar reach. One problem with the AGC caliper is that it uses a proprietary pad and holder; once the OEM pads wear out, you'll be hard-pressed to find replacements. The AER pad holders are similar to Modolo; not exactly common, but more so than the AGC pads, and they'll accept Modolo replacement pads or other pads that have been re-shaped to fit.
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I've got a short reach 600EX 6207 that's 49-39 mm. I ran it on a Centurion track fork and it has good stopping power.

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Originally Posted by tendency View Post
just a mil or two too long...
Dremel tool and/or narrow pads.
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Is the Weinmann 500 too long?
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Can you file out the slot 1 or 2mm up?
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Dia-Compe AGC300/BL Black Calipers

Originally Posted by tendency View Post
Looking for a pretty short short-reach brake for a mid 80s bike that I'm running a track fork on. Dura Ace 7400-10 are just a mil or two too long. Other ideas? I suppose it doesnt have to be a vintage brake..
I have a set of Dia-Compe AGC300/BL black calipers that I'm getting ready to post in the Classic & Vintage Sales Forum - CHEAP!

PM me if interested

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How is the clearance between the tire and the crown? What about tire and brake caliper? Don’t forget the tire will deform slightly and get a wee bit taller when you put your weight on it.
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Sounds like the square peg for a round hole. I would get a new frame and fork that match and swap the parts to it.
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Originally Posted by markwesti View Post
A little pricy but this is how it is done .https://www.tracksupermarket.com/hac...no-clamps.html
BTW, thanks for that link to that website, very interesting! Bookmarked for my growing list of Bike Parts Websites.
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