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Old 05-06-22, 12:45 PM
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Progress!

I disassembled and cleaned and regreased the front hub. The cones have some pitting, but what's the Clunker Challenge without that? The rear is in much better nick and should roll nicely when I am done.

I also hit my favorite LBS right at opening, before the no-hvac upstairs got too hot and scored a pair of used IRC 700x25s with mismatched labels - Coleman let me have them for $10 + tax. So now I’m at $25.70.






EDIT: Took more tweaking than usual, but now the rear wheel spins smoothly on new grease! Hopefully tomorrow I can reassemble the complete bike!

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Old 05-06-22, 12:50 PM
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Going for the KoM.

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Going for the KoM.

Wow.

What's the story with this one?
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Wow.

What's the story with this one?
For sale locally for $50. Only other picture is this one:

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This will be a pretty lengthy submission, so I apologize in advance.

This will be my submission for this year: a Trek TX700 that I picked it up last year. I initially tried to haggle for a lower price but the seller offered to throw in an extra wheelset, which turned out to be a set of Weinmanns laced to some very rusty Phil Woods. Sold! Upon bringing it home, however, a few issues became apparent. The rear rack had a large crack in one of the welds, and the chain jumped around for some reason. I was pretty ecstatic with my find at the time, so I ignored the shifting issues and discarded the rack, wheels, and a couple of other components that were on the bike. I then left the TX700 to languish in the backyard shed until I decided to pull it from storage a few days ago. Nothing much has changed, except that the hoods disappeared somehow and the bar tape has disintegrated a bit. Now that it's on the work stand, I can finally get some photos in and see what's wrong with the Trek.

D/S photo. SR crankset and stem, Suntour VX drivetrain and barcons, Weinmann Concave rims and 1st gen Phil Wood hubs.

Massive 34t freewheel paired with a racing crankset. Weird combo.

I think I found the cause of my shifting woes...

No bike of mine is complete without a bit of rust.

Wheels attached with skewers from a similarly esteemed American manufacturer.

Remnants of the Reynolds 531 decal.
Aside from the chain, I don't think I'll be doing a major teardown until after the TX700 completes the challenge. Most of the components are sealed anyways. I think I'll turn this into some rando or sportiff bike within budget. I've also got a lead on some vintage Blackburn racks that I'm checking out today. Fingers crossed this clunker will be able to survive the challenge.
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Old 05-07-22, 05:13 AM
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For sale locally for $50. Only other picture is this one:

I'd offer him $40
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Wow! Nice find. Early Trek with Phil Hubs???? Add that to the awesome Vx stuff, an Avocet saddle, and thatís a nice keeper. Is that an Apex crank?

Looks to be around 50cm?

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This will be a pretty lengthy submission, so I apologize in advance.

This will be my submission for this year: a Trek TX700 that I picked it up last year. I initially tried to haggle for a lower price but the seller offered to throw in an extra wheelset, which turned out to be a set of Weinmanns laced to some very rusty Phil Woods. Sold! Upon bringing it home, however, a few issues became apparent. The rear rack had a large crack in one of the welds, and the chain jumped around for some reason. I was pretty ecstatic with my find at the time, so I ignored the shifting issues and discarded the rack, wheels, and a couple of other components that were on the bike. I then left the TX700 to languish in the backyard shed until I decided to pull it from storage a few days ago. Nothing much has changed, except that the hoods disappeared somehow and the bar tape has disintegrated a bit. Now that it's on the work stand, I can finally get some photos in and see what's wrong with the Trek.

D/S photo. SR crankset and stem, Suntour VX drivetrain and barcons, Weinmann Concave rims and 1st gen Phil Wood hubs.

Massive 34t freewheel paired with a racing crankset. Weird combo.

I think I found the cause of my shifting woes...

No bike of mine is complete without a bit of rust.

Wheels attached with skewers from a similarly esteemed American manufacturer.

Remnants of the Reynolds 531 decal.
Aside from the chain, I don't think I'll be doing a major teardown until after the TX700 completes the challenge. Most of the components are sealed anyways. I think I'll turn this into some rando or sportiff bike within budget. I've also got a lead on some vintage Blackburn racks that I'm checking out today. Fingers crossed this clunker will be able to survive the challenge.
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Finally was able to build the rear wheel for the Peugeot porteur clunker. It’s a $30 27” Weinmann rim, a $20 single-speed coaster brake hub, used spokes 4 cross, new nipples from the stash ($5.76 at current Amazon prices), used IRC tires from a trash find, and a new chain ($10). Original pedals, BB, and crankset minus the big ring. Still thinking of recovering the saddle with brown leather, but haven’t had time to go to the thrift store for a donor jacket or purse.







The ride is surprisingly smooth. A bit under-geared but that seems appropriate for this type of bike. Considering adding fenders from the stash.
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Old 05-07-22, 03:31 PM
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Wow! Nice find. Early Trek with Phil Hubs???? Add that to the awesome Vx stuff, an Avocet saddle, and thatís a nice keeper. Is that an Apex crank?

Looks to be around 50cm?
Yes, it's all as you described. I was hoping the crankset would be a Royal, but it's not etched into the arms, so I'm assuming it's a Super Apex. The frame is 48cm.
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I'm not so sure about getting the Gitane all together and under budget and on time. That does not mean I'm out of the clunker challenge.

Today at $100 even this crusty critter is looking to be "it"
I'll take some closer shots later
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Old 05-07-22, 05:00 PM
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THAT is a very cool clunker. $8 in the budget for pedals.
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Old 05-07-22, 06:57 PM
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Roadworthy!

In two bursts of misprioritized time I finished up the LeTour’s build. In the wee hours of the morning I installed the freewheel and the new/old IRC tires. I fitted the SunTour Blaze derailleurs and shifters, using one new and one used shift cable - call it $4 total, $1 for the used one and $3 for one from the stash. The original chain, post-Evapo Rust bath and soak in 30W, went on next. Once I got the front mech high enough to clear the SR oval chainrings, I was delighted to find it indexes very nicely.

Next was the saddle and seat post. I realize the rails are bent, and I think a taller saddle would let me put just that much more seat post in the frame to meet the minimum insertion line.

Bars and stem were next. and I added the calipers and went to bed.




This morning after breakfast I raided the storage unit for bits I thought I might need. Of course they were in the bottom two Rubbermaid bins in the back of the unit …




I brought back a set of Look pedals ($0, given to me on the Mercian that is now my son’s ride), a Shimano bottom bracket I may install later, a set of Dia-Compe Blaze hoods I didn’t need after all, and all the used bar tape I could find. I’ll have to go back tomorrow for the Vetta saddle that came with a Univega I got last year.

I know it has been suggested that I run the bike with the cockpit arrangement it came with -




- but there are some lines even I cannot cross. So I helped the bike molt, so to speak -




- and got to work. Because the original brake cables were both stainless and good, I wound up greasing them and using the original housings and dialing them in. I was grateful for the brake centering wrench for that!

After realizing I didn’t have enough black bar tape, I decided to go wholly clunker and pieced together the green stuff that came with last year’s Specialized Sirrus.

I took it for a very quick spin around the parking lot and I think I’m going to enjoy this!






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I have a fawn-ish colored doeskin (I think?) hide that has been sitting around for years and I would be glad to cut an appropriate size and send it to you. Very soft stuff, maybe too soft for the task but let me know.
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Originally Posted by philpeugeot View Post
Yes, it's all as you described. I was hoping the crankset would be a Royal, but it's not etched into the arms, so I'm assuming it's a Super Apex. The frame is 48cm.
HUGE win on the find. I just noticed the barcons...for some reason didn't see them first. Let me know if you want to convert to down-tubes; I might have something that matches for you (Also found a SunTour VX hub of all things).
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It's enjoyable to see everyone's finds, and their progress with them, on a budget, no less. I don't like to "force" my acquisitions, but this one fell into my lap within the timeline, so I guess I'm in this time. You might initially Cannondale, but I recognized the Klein Performance, with some Dura Ace bits. It has a broken spoke on the front wheel, has some corrosion on the frame, and needs maintenance, but a good start. I paid $60.
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I have a fawn-ish colored doeskin (I think?) hide that has been sitting around for years and I would be glad to cut an appropriate size and send it to you. Very soft stuff, maybe too soft for the task but let me know.
Thanks, but not worth the cost of mailing. I should be able to find something locally or Iíll just leave it as is.

Btw, the mention function still doesnít work; you need to avoid the pop up: @RustyJames.
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So I guess I'm in this year. I've wanted to do this in the past but am too scatterbrained to keep accurate track of expenses. Until yesterday, I harvested this sweet Nishiki from my local Collective:

I Paid $100.00 on the money but they gave me a $25.00 gift card to a local pizza joint to sweeten the deal so I'm calling it $75.00 spent so far. Shouldn't need much to get er up and running....
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On the road again

This morning I raided the storage unit again, returning one saddle and fetching the Vetta from the '86 Univega Arrow Pace I bought late last year for $24.99 - so I set the value at $5 for the saddle. Once back at the shack, I installed it and tweaked height and position on the rails, but not quite enough. I put the bike on the work stand again and did a little more spoke wrench work to get the wheels to run true, cinched the headset locknut down and played with everything to make sure it all worked and was secure. I remembered the bike came with a bottle cage, and fished it out, slathered the mounting bolts with grease and screwed 'em down.

It was surprisingly cool today for South Carolina in May, so I waited for it to warm up, which gave me an opportunity to put away all the tools and cleaning supplies used to get the LeTour to where it is, vacuum up all the dirt that came out of the old tires when I pulled them and do some laundry. Finally at 4:15 or so it reached the mid-60s and I decided it was time.

I barely got out of the parking lot before I pulled over to fish the multi-tool out to raise the saddle another centimeter - Look pedals + non-Brooks saddle = 79 cm center of BB to saddle top, period. then after another mile and a half or so I pulled over again to loosen the seat post clamp and smack the saddle back as far as it would go on its rusty rails. My quads were much happier after that.

I took a route I used to ride 40 years ago or so, one that normally has too much traffic now. The gift of Sunday afternoon and everyone being at the lake carried me along nicely and quietly - and very, very slowly! - up the long hill of Deadfall Road, across the scary intersection at 246 and on to the light where I crossed U.S. 25. The section between there and Dixie Drive was reconfigured a few years back, making it much shallower and smoother. I kinda miss the crazy near-switchback turn it originally had.

Feeling brave - this was my second ride for 2022, and I haven't ridden regularly since early October - I turned right to follow Deadfall down the long hill to Pine Drive, once a staple of the old Greenwood Cycling Club that led out from the local Y parking lot. I got down in the drops and got as aero as I could manage, and the old Schwinn rolled smoothly along, making the turn onto Pine predictably and well. I went for the small ring as I crossed the bridge and started up the climb, then cheated and took the left turn that returned me to Dixie, sparing myself a nasty hill. Dixie being essentially flat, it was a easy mile or so to four-lane Calhoun Road, which became Northside Drive as I re-crossed U.S. 25 and muscled up the short little rise.

It wasn't quite all downhill from there, but it's pretty close. I stopped to check my phone when I heard it ding and responded to my wife's text, then back on the old bike and down along the last stretch of Northside, grateful that it's a 35 mph speed zone because it's really too narrow for the volume of traffic it gets. When I turned into the parking lot, I decided to ride all the way to the back of the apartment complex, as I'd never bothered to go back there before, then looped back in.

I realized I hadn't taken any pictures while out on the ride, so for now here's how the LeTour - now called Champagne Charlie in honor of both its color and of Leon Redbone - looked after I finished up.



Observations -

1. The SunTour Blaze indexing derailleurs worked very nicely, making reasonably crisp shifts. If I had a chain and freewheel that had never been allowed to rust to an interesting texture, it would probably be excellent. As it was, I found the gear I was looking for every time.

2. The cheap used 25mm IRCs felt very nice at 80 psi or so.

3. As always, once I've been on the bike for a couple of miles, any peculiarities start melting away and it's just a bike beneath me. This is a quality machine that has been badly neglected, and if I were to keep it I would find some replacement cones for the front hub (and I may do that, as I think I have some in the stash!) and a decent bottom bracket to replace the Horror that is Hatta down there.

4. It probably deserves better bar tape, and I may splurge $9 or so for a set from the 'Bay.

5. I sincerely wish this bike was about 1-2 cm taller and longer. The 56 cm top tube is just enough too short and the drop from saddle height to bar tops is just enough to be mildly annoying. Pity, and maybe if I threw some money at the bike and got a taller seat post and a Nitto Technomic stem ...

Still - nice old bike, rides much better than it looks, and I now have 17.3 km under my belt.

Total to date -

$15.00 - acquisition of the bike
$10.70 - pair of used tires, plus tax
$4.00 - value of one used and one new shift cable from the stash
$5.00 - value of one used Vetta saddle scavenged from another clunker
$0.00 - value of used Look pedals given to me with a free bike
$0.00 - value of scavenged nasty green bar tape

So, $34.70. And who knows, maybe I'll finish up with this bike and go for entry number two with the Univega!

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Inaugural ride this afternoon mostly happy but with a couple of notes, one serious.




First time I tried to upshift the rear cluster, the rear derailleur would not budge. I flipped the bike, and it appeared to be a stuck cable. Jiggled it loose and carried on, seemed to work the rest of the way. Not very smooth or reliable shifting. Iíll have to fiddle with that. I found the fitment and adjustment instructions on the internet.



Serious problem -- Bike actually has a nice enough ride feel. But the steering is amiss. I try to ride hands off, it veers hard left every time. Might be my imagination, but it kind of leans to the left when riding in a straight line as well. Front fork bent? More investigation needed.
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1997? Jamis Quest

Ok, I'll play. This looks like too fun not to. Humbly submitted for your consideration is this 1997 (1998, 1999?) Jamis Quest complete with Shimano RSX components. Drive train is 3x7. I bought this on Craigslist last fall for trainer purposes and used it half-heartedly as such over the colder months. It is perhaps a hair small for me, but I bought it knowing this so my wife could use it on the trainer, as well. I paid $100.00.


It had a bulging tire, which was merely a tube doubled over on itself. I fixed that and added "new" bar tape off of an old set of trekking bars I had. I view this as being fully depreciated as no one would have bought the tape. I also had to spray the brifters liberally with WD-40 to get them to index again. Then, I "fixed" a cut in the rear derailleur cable tubing with electrical tape. Not elegant, but it works.


As I will be primarily commuting and recreational riding during my challenge, I took off the original 1990's Shimano SPD pedals (used but work great) and replaced them with a pair of parts bin highly worn Wellgo platform pedals from my wife's Trek 7.2 FX. In my mind, this is either a net wash or a slight deduction.


Here is my outlay assessment:

Bike purchase: $100

Bar tape (used, fully depreciated): $0

Electrical tape: $.25

WD-40: $.25

Wellgo pedal swap (perhaps -$10.00 as I took off Shimano SPD pedals)


Thus, I put my total investment at around $90.50. I hope the tires hold out - they are old 700x23 Vittorias - I am not used to such skinny tires! While this was never a high-end bike, I struggle to call it a complete clunker as it fairly responsive.

I've got 7.5 miles in today - I will try to uploads photos shortly.

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Ok, I'll play. This looks like too fun not to. Humbly submitted for your consideration is this 1997 (1998, 1999?) Jamis Quest complete with Shimano RSX components. Drive train is 3x7. I bought this on Craigslist last fall for trainer purposes and used it half-heartedly as such over the colder months. It is perhaps a hair small for me, but I bought it knowing this so my wife could use it on the trainer, as well. I paid $100.00.


It had a bulging tire, which was merely a tube doubled over on itself. I fixed that and added "new" bar tape off of an old set of trekking bars I had. I view this as being fully depreciated as no one would have bought the tape. I also had to spray the brifters liberally with WD-40 to get them to index again. Then, I "fixed" a cut in the rear derailleur cable tubing with electrical tape. Not elegant, but it works.


As I will be primarily commuting and recreational riding during my challenge, I took off the original 1990's Shimano SPD pedals (used but work great) and replaced them with a pair of parts bin highly worn Wellgo platforms pedals from my wife's Trek 7.2 FX. In my mind, this is either a net wash or a slight deduction.


Here is my outlay assessment:

Bike purchase: $100

Bar tape (used, fully depreciated): $0

Electrical tape: $.25

WD-40: $.25

Wellgo pedal swap (perhaps -$10.00 as I took off Shimano SPD pedals)


Thus, I put my total investment at around $90.50. I hope the tires hold out - they are old 700x23 Vittorias - I am not used to such skinny tires!


I've got 7.5 miles in today - I will try to uploads photos shortly.

Drive train side

Electrical tape was used...a lot...it shifts quite well now.
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First repair complete: rewrapped the existing bar tape to cover the unsightly gap at the bend, and to uncover the center section of the handlebars:





Also trued the wheels and tuned the brakes a bit. Rode around the neighborhood a few times; maybe 1 mile worth.
So total outlay:
$75 bike
.25 electrical tape
for a total of $75.25.

Mileage: 1!

On my way!
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Originally Posted by TrekCommuter View Post
Ok, I'll play. This looks like too fun not to. Humbly submitted for your consideration is this 1997 (1998, 1999?) Jamis Quest complete with Shimano RSX components. Drive train is 3x7. I bought this on Craigslist last fall for trainer purposes and used it half-heartedly as such over the colder months. It is perhaps a hair small for me, but I bought it knowing this so my wife could use it on the trainer, as well. I paid $100.00.


It had a bulging tire, which was merely a tube doubled over on itself. I fixed that and added "new" bar tape off of an old set of trekking bars I had. I view this as being fully depreciated as no one would have bought the tape. I also had to spray the brifters liberally with WD-40 to get them to index again. Then, I "fixed" a cut in the rear derailleur cable tubing with electrical tape. Not elegant, but it works.


As I will be primarily commuting and recreational riding during my challenge, I took off the original 1990's Shimano SPD pedals (used but work great) and replaced them with a pair of parts bin highly worn Wellgo platform pedals from my wife's Trek 7.2 FX. In my mind, this is either a net wash or a slight deduction.


Here is my outlay assessment:

Bike purchase: $100

Bar tape (used, fully depreciated): $0

Electrical tape: $.25

WD-40: $.25

Wellgo pedal swap (perhaps -$10.00 as I took off Shimano SPD pedals)


Thus, I put my total investment at around $90.50. I hope the tires hold out - they are old 700x23 Vittorias - I am not used to such skinny tires! While this was never a high-end bike, I struggle to call it a complete clunker as it fairly responsive.

I've got 7.5 miles in today - I will try to uploads photos shortly.
I bought a Jamis Quest in 2011. It was discounted for the end of season, but still a lot more than $100. I like C&V bikes, but the Quest is my go-to for all day comfort.
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Would this count? It's my dad's, and he only spent a maximum of $50 on it between a new handlebar, grips, and inner tubes. It was found in the trash and I still can't find any information on it online. Seems like a generic Taiwanese road bike from the 1970s or 1980s, probably hi-tensile steel. I just put 9.1 miles on it today. I'm going to add maybe $0.50 worth of dry lube to the chain and gears tomorrow. It did need some derailleur adjustment but now it shifts fine.







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