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Old 06-12-22, 02:06 PM
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Is 2014 vintage enough? Mine is steel and doesn't have thru-axles.
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Old 06-12-22, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Classtime View Post
Specific categories is why this forum is popular. Share your early brifter bikes to people who are interested in them as a category. That no one goes there should tell you something. Most brifter fans have or will move on to disks, and electronic shifting for their daily riders.
I somewhat agree that having specific categories makes this place what it is, but there's specific and too specific. But we could argue our lifetimes away over what constitutes Classic and Vintage and what doesn't.

And that no one goes to that subforum does tell me something, it tells me it's in the wrong place. It was worth the experiment but if it's not popular enough to have a busy subforum then maybe it should be rolled back into C&V. There's a lot of cross-over with early brifter technology and the introduction and popularisation of other types of frame building and wheel/hub technologies etc which could still be considered C&V.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this though, bikes are cool and good
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Old 06-12-22, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1983 View Post
I somewhat agree that having specific categories makes this place what it is, but there's specific and too specific. But we could argue our lifetimes away over what constitutes Classic and Vintage and what doesn't.

And that no one goes to that subforum does tell me something, it tells me it's in the wrong place. It was worth the experiment but if it's not popular enough to have a busy subforum then maybe it should be rolled back into C&V. There's a lot of cross-over with early brifter technology and the introduction and popularisation of other types of frame building and wheel/hub technologies etc which could still be considered C&V.
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Old 06-12-22, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66 View Post
I do have a 1999 Rodriguez Arrow that fits under this theme. This was 3x8, rebuilt up with 3x9 Campy. I apologize for the horriblily staged photo.
That may be a briftered 99 but its heart and soul are firmly anchored in the annals of steel frame building so regardless of how its set up today, steel is still real, classic and vintage, all day long, period, IMO.
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Old 06-12-22, 06:38 PM
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I predict that with the increase in STI and ERGO riders to C&V, there will be a significant increase in responses like, "Save yourself some trouble and put in a sealed BB, and some Tektro dual pivots." And, "First thing I'd do is get rid of those plastic derailleurs." Lots of members currently tape their tubulars to their rims! We are traversing a slippery slope.

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Old 06-13-22, 06:24 AM
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Old 06-13-22, 07:18 AM
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Im curious how you fare with them on your vintage bikes vs their electronic derailleur full carbon rockets and if there is any commentary among the group regarding it.
I do not fare well at all but that has more to do with my lack of training and old age than the bike(s). As long as I either keep up with them or that I accept, without whining, them leavning me in the dust they tolerate me... and my bikes. If I would show up being me 35 years ago on a sixities Bianchi and leavning most of them behind I do not know what would happen. Material can only do so much. Still has to pedal and a good cyclist will beat a lesser one - aero and material can do something but not all and all the time.


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@styggno1 - that one looks borderline small for you (us).
And knowing the content of your collection - if you showed up on an aluminium DeRosa, well....i would be gobsmacked, too.
I thought so too (the size) but the sloping top tube and the diameter of the headtube plays tricks on us. Here are pictures (allowing for a degree or two in difference in camera position) of the De Rosa above and my Motorola MX Leader (borderline vintage frame) - look at the paneling in the background. Compare saddle and cockpit. Then there are probably some that would argue that I am using the stem "upside down" to make it work... and it looks a bit weird. But I am old enough to ignore them!



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Old 06-13-22, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AJI125 View Post
I’ll play along. 1999 LeMond Buenos Aires. (Welded) steel (853) but older style paneling. Ignore the early ‘00s 10s

Early 00s 10V are great! Specially the triple. Here on borderline vintage MX Leader in GAN livery. 10V down tube shifters.

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Old 06-13-22, 05:12 PM
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I have a 92 Paramount, but no pics. My personal definition of vintage is if it can be worked on with the tools I have. No carbon paste or NM torque wrenches please.
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Old 06-13-22, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AJI125 View Post
I’ll play along. 1999 LeMond Buenos Aires. (Welded) steel (853) but older style paneling. Ignore the early ‘00s 10s…


That's totally different from my 2001 Buenos Aires.



@nlerner has encouraged me to dimple the chainstays and set this up 650B. I do have a set of 650B wheels I'm not using for anything else, and if I'm not careful they'll grow into another bike in the garage, but so far I've been happy with the 700x28 setup seen here.

I have to confess, the twenty year-old thin carbon fork on this makes me a bit nervous every time I think about it, but I try not to think about it when I'm riding and that usually works. Once in a while I inspect it for cracks, but I'm honestly not sure I can tell the difference between a scratch in the paint and a crack in the carbon fiber. But, you know, I've got good dental insurance. It'll probably be fine.
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Old 06-13-22, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
That's totally different from my 2001 Buenos Aires.



@nlerner has encouraged me to dimple the chainstays and set this up 650B. I do have a set of 650B wheels I'm not using for anything else, and if I'm not careful they'll grow into another bike in the garage, but so far I've been happy with the 700x28 setup seen here.

I have to confess, the twenty year-old thin carbon fork on this makes me a bit nervous every time I think about it, but I try not to think about it when I'm riding and that usually works. Once in a while I inspect it for cracks, but I'm honestly not sure I can tell the difference between a scratch in the paint and a crack in the carbon fiber. But, you know, I've got good dental insurance. It'll probably be fine.
Oh goodness, I also copied your seafoam green on my SLX Bianchi. Wonder if my next bike will be one in your stable too (you don’t have a 1972 Fuji too do you?).

I’d recommend the 650B conversion but I drink the Koolaid and the chaser (my Fuji is also 650B, running Hetres). But yeah, same on the old carbon fork. I have a Fuji hi-ten high rake fork that just barely fit on my size 55 BA since I cut it shorter than I meant, whoops, if you want to give it a shot shoot me a PM and I’ll measure the steerer. Full chrome, ran it for a while and worked pretty well with nice tire clearances.
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Originally Posted by AJI125 View Post
Oh goodness, I also copied your seafoam green on my SLX Bianchi. Wonder if my next bike will be one in your stable too (you don’t have a 1972 Fuji too do you?).

I’d recommend the 650B conversion but I drink the Koolaid and the chaser (my Fuji is also 650B, running Hetres). But yeah, same on the old carbon fork. I have a Fuji hi-ten high rake fork that just barely fit on my size 55 BA since I cut it shorter than I meant, whoops, if you want to give it a shot shoot me a PM and I’ll measure the steerer. Full chrome, ran it for a while and worked pretty well with nice tire clearances.
No Fujis in my garage. I think you're safe.

As for the 650B Kool Aid, I do have a 650B Motobecane Grand Jubilé with extensive Gugificazione, so I feel like converting the BA to 650B would be kind of pointless. Of course, that doesn't mean I won't do it.
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Old 06-13-22, 09:13 PM
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Some nice newer bikes in this thread.

My entry:

Turn of the century(2000) Serotta Atlanta(You'll have to excuse the off topic fork).

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Originally Posted by styggno1 View Post
Early 00s 10V are great! Specially the triple. Here on borderline vintage MX Leader in GAN livery. 10V down tube shifters.
Gotta agree with the Stig…
Early 10v Campagnolo is really nice, 10v Down Tube Shifters on two of mine. Works Great!

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Some nice newer bikes in this thread.
My entry:
Turn of the century(2000) Serotta Atlanta(You'll have to excuse the off topic fork).
That's one of my favorites, Roger. Love that Bike!
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Old 06-14-22, 08:28 AM
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1999 Pinarello. NOS frame/fork.

Did someone say they like Campy 10, early 00's??? Triple for the mountains.
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Old 06-14-22, 08:46 AM
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Yes, we love Campy 10 from early 00's, on nearly vintage rides rolling nice tubular tires

And we love small builder frames, built to suit just us.
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Old 06-14-22, 10:23 AM
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Bikes from the late 90s early 00s are in the sweet spot: high end quality, bargain prices,

Bikes I bought for my kids. Never spent more than $200



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