Casati frame rescue
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Casati frame rescue
Took this home from the shop where I work today. Seized bb cup and badly bent dropout have already been dealt with, but the paint and dent in the dt will take some effort. In terms of frame features, this thing has all the bells and whistles. Now I just gotta find a complete Super Record Gruppo 🤔...
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what was the goal with that paint job?
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Was it stolen and painted at a bike chop shop...? Can’t think of any good reason.
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Nice find. Casati experts, is this a Gold Line model? It has the aero cable routing and DT shifter mounts similar to the Gold Line/Gold Line-S models I've seen, but it lacks the "tuning fork" seat stay treatment. Do you see rifling inside the tubes, indicating SLX tubing?
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Are you sure that's paint? It looks like it was dipped in milk chocolate.
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Nice find. Casati experts, is this a Gold Line model? It has the aero cable routing and DT shifter mounts similar to the Gold Line/Gold Line-S models I've seen, but it lacks the "tuning fork" seat stay treatment. Do you see rifling inside the tubes, indicating SLX tubing?
EDIT: found a paint match at www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/casatiRDV.html
Doesn't give me a lot of information though as far as model designation, year etc.
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...I painted a bike like that once, with a brush, to make it less attractive to thieves. It wasn't a Casati though, it was a commuter. Some of the original paint jobs on these were pretty nice. They are a PIA to recable though.
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It is indeed a Perfection. With the exception of the gear lever mounting, mine is identical:
Or was, before gugie got his hands on it:
Do you have the fork? If so, you can build quite the awesome bike starting with that frame/fork. Like to see it again once all that orange stuff is gone. Built up with an original fork, it'll be a super ride. Cabling up the derailleurs can be tricky - as can keeping them in adjustment - with the internally-cabled system.
I suspect this will build up into a favorite if you like to go fast and look cool.
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Or was, before gugie got his hands on it:
Do you have the fork? If so, you can build quite the awesome bike starting with that frame/fork. Like to see it again once all that orange stuff is gone. Built up with an original fork, it'll be a super ride. Cabling up the derailleurs can be tricky - as can keeping them in adjustment - with the internally-cabled system.
I suspect this will build up into a favorite if you like to go fast and look cool.
DD
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That's a project for sure! I dont see the dent in the DT, how bad is it?
What's the back story, how did this one end up in the shop?
What are the plans to get this back on the road? If it were me, with as rough of shape as it appears to be in, I think I would want to have it media blasted and inspect it pretty closely to make sure there was enough of it left to warrant a proper restoration.
Good luck!
What's the back story, how did this one end up in the shop?
What are the plans to get this back on the road? If it were me, with as rough of shape as it appears to be in, I think I would want to have it media blasted and inspect it pretty closely to make sure there was enough of it left to warrant a proper restoration.
Good luck!
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I think a bike like that deserves to be restored better than new--i.e., chromed head tube lugs/chain stay, correct fork, awesome paint and correct decals. What a find.
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That's more charitable the the description I was thinking...
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That's a project for sure! I dont see the dent in the DT, how bad is it?
What's the back story, how did this one end up in the shop?
What are the plans to get this back on the road? If it were me, with as rough of shape as it appears to be in, I think I would want to have it media blasted and inspect it pretty closely to make sure there was enough of it left to warrant a proper restoration.
Good luck!
What's the back story, how did this one end up in the shop?
What are the plans to get this back on the road? If it were me, with as rough of shape as it appears to be in, I think I would want to have it media blasted and inspect it pretty closely to make sure there was enough of it left to warrant a proper restoration.
Good luck!
I wasn't there when the Casati was brought in but my coworkers tell me it was literally dropped on the ground by a surly fellow in a truck who didn't like being asked to take donations through the front of the shop. It was accompanied by a Viner, a TSX Giordana and a
And yes I'm either going to have it media blasted or chemical stripped. I'll also try rolling out the dent, it's pretty bad. If it's not ridable it will be wall art. No fork sadly, so I'll have to find something that's not too sacrilegious to pair with it. I'm also not rich enough to give it the paint job that it deserves, so it'll probably get something tasteful but unobtrusive until the next owner does something fancier with it.
Thank you! I don't know why I just assumed that Perfection was being used as an adjective rather than as the model name 😅
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"...It was accompanied by a Viner, a TSX Giordana and a Bertin (I think), all of which were in varying states of disrepair (but not as bad as the Casati)"
Sheesh! This Surly Truck Man had some real quality in his dump run, wonder where he collects such "trash"!
I have to put CCC on my must-visit-list when I'm next up in Portland, keep up the good work and keep the flame!
Sheesh! This Surly Truck Man had some real quality in his dump run, wonder where he collects such "trash"!
I have to put CCC on my must-visit-list when I'm next up in Portland, keep up the good work and keep the flame!
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Can someone tell me more about this shifter set and the shifter boss?
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I had a Casati at one point but it had some heavy corrosion so it was parted out and frame moved along. Same or similar shifter setup.
Album: Casati Perfection
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I have a Casati Gold Line and this frame looks very similar to mine. I am not familiar with the Perfection, so I cannot comment on that model. I will post a pic of my Casati below. Great find, 3dvvitch! Definitely a great frame to build up. Love the details on all these Casatis.
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P.S. The color of mine is root beer brown/burgundy.
I have a Casati Gold Line and this frame looks very similar to mine. I am not familiar with the Perfection, so I cannot comment on that model. I will post a pic of my Casati below. Great find, 3dvvitch! Definitely a great frame to build up. Love the details on all these Casatis.
aceves
P.S. The color of mine is root beer brown/burgundy.
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So, is it forgivable to build a Casati with Japanese components, provided that they're sufficiently rare and fancy??? I don't have Campagnolo, but I've got something else (that isn't Dura Ace)...
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But if you are thinking of 600Ex or SunTour Superbe, or Sprint, it will be a lovely bike!
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Forgivable? It depends on whose forgiveness you want, I think. The real problem is that those Casati pantographed shifters are Campy. I've got a bike that mixes Campy, Shimano, SunTour, Tektro, and Gevenalle components, so even on a bike as nice as this Casati could be, I'd probably think it's OK as long as you ride it. The pink one I pictured above was built with a Gipiemme crankset and front derailleur with the Casati shifters and a Campagnolo Victory rear derailleur. IMO, the Victory RD was the most egregious part of the build.
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This is my favorite thing about these Casatis. The shift cable goes directly into the downtube from the shifters and then emerges from the back of the chainstay. It's very slick.
I don't even want to think about how hard it is to run the cable through there though. I never had to do it.
I don't even want to think about how hard it is to run the cable through there though. I never had to do it.
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