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Old 07-05-22, 03:03 PM
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Ever heard of a Technobull?

Just bought a new bike, ostensibly for my wife (don't tell her, it's a surprise).



The brand is Technobull, a small German shop that was active from the late 1970s until the 1990s. There is not much information on Technobull because Gunther Sattler, the main guy, died in 1998. If you google it today, you will mainly get shops offering the decal set. Neither the pink paint job nor the main decals are original, but there are some signature details.





This will need some work, but it looks like a fun bike. Here is a page from an old Bicycling magazine article posted here a few years back. Any additional information is appreciated.


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I like it. It's cool. It certainly has a certain je ne sais quoi.
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True mixte with the twin small tubes running from stem to stearn and very cool, especially if actually 531.

That's an Eclipse rack with the bead /slide mount, need to ask about the panniers anytime we see these although they are likely to be compromised this far down the line and the rack will accommodate regular ones as well.
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I do see a "531" sticker on the ds fork blade.
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And that seatpost clamp bolt is pretty exotic for a mixte.
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Originally Posted by HelpSingularity View Post
I do see a "531" sticker on the ds fork blade.
Yes and remnants of one on the ST. but its a repaint, hence the "if actually".

Again, very cool regardless, forged DO's, fully lugged, full Panto including HS, all good.

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I think the go to BF-er for obscure German brands is @Marti.
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As I understand it Technobull generally used 531 or lighter. The bike as built is about 25 pounds.

It is odd there are so many signature details on the front end but not on the frame itself. The weird little bend in the mixte bar on the drive side seems pretty custom though.
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Yea, get a 'Rivendell'ish paint job, with the commensurate decals, and that thing would POP.

ps I've always loved mixtes and that is one of the nicer ones I've seen.

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Originally Posted by HelpSingularity View Post
And that seatpost clamp bolt is pretty exotic for a mixte.
Yep, and that alone would greatly increase the likelihood it is actually 531, rack mounts too.

There are plenty of nice mixte's, especially if you count all the different versions that are not true ones.

None of these are true mixte's but you get the idea.




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Here's a clue - looks like a German flag decal under the paint on the seat tube..

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Originally Posted by albrt View Post
As I understand it Technobull generally used 531 or lighter. The bike as built is about 25 pounds.

It is odd there are so many signature details on the front end but not on the frame itself. The weird little bend in the mixte bar on the drive side seems pretty custom though.
That is very odd, never seen such a thing (which means very little).

Paging bulgie
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Originally Posted by albrt View Post
As I understand it Technobull generally used 531 or lighter. The bike as built is about 25 pounds.

It is odd there are so many signature details on the front end but not on the frame itself. The weird little bend in the mixte bar on the drive side seems pretty custom though.
How about a pic looking straight down on rear wheel from above and maybe some closer ups of the bendy area?
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
How about a pic looking straight down on rear wheel from above and maybe some closer ups of the bendy area?
Here are a couple of angles (can't go straight down without taking the rack off).




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Tx, very odd, normally the hub+freewheel are centered in the DO's, looks like they chose to build out the DS to avoid an over center wheel.
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Originally Posted by albrt View Post
Here are a couple of angles (can't go straight down without taking the rack off).
Maybe straight on from the back sitting on the ground, looking down at the hub from under the back of the rack?
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Originally Posted by albrt View Post
As I understand it Technobull generally used 531 or lighter. The bike as built is about 25 pounds.

It is odd there are so many signature details on the front end but not on the frame itself. The weird little bend in the mixte bar on the drive side seems pretty custom though.
Pretty typical for a Mixtie to have the chain always clean of the mid stay.

Those geometry and dimensions on the frame table.... compare the Baylis to the Cinelli... the metric to inch conversion or the measuring tape is off.
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Here are a couple more angles.



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The Bicycling article excerpted in the original post mentions a "531 mixte." At first I assumed it was an early attempt at a "production" model, but re-reading the article it sounds more like it was a one-off. This bike does have a person's name carved into the stem.

The whole article is here, posted by SpeedofLite:

Frames and Framebuilding (1983) USA Framebuilders Come of Age

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I think the go to BF-er for obscure German brands is @Marti.
There is a BF member named Marti, but he/she only posted a few times in 2009. Are you referencing the Twitters or something else?
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Hey! Thatís the Technobull from Gray Matter! I almost bought that bike two years ago!

The drilled out equipment is what caught my eye initially. I wasnít sure on the paint either, I assumed it might be a repaint.

Alas the bike was too small for myself and my SO. Iím glad another BFíer claimed it!

e: Another deciding factor in not purchasing it was the drivetrain. With all the custom work on the parts, I assumed that at some point someone (maybe even the bike shop) swapped some of the drivetrain.
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You are 100% correct! Did they really have it that long? I didn't notice it, but I'm usually looking for bigger bikes.

I started feeling guilty because I bought several bikes for myself recently and nothing for my wife, and then they posted this on Craigslist.

The brushed steel Schwinn they have is also cool, but probably even smaller than this frame.
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I havenít been down to their shop since the start of COVID, so I can only assume that longÖ. But my COVID era sense of time is all out of wack, so I could totally be wrong.

Iíll need to head over there some time again. I love what the shop does with the non-profit work.

I hope you get more answers on the bike. Itís a freaking rad ride. Donít forget to tell your wife that strangers on the internet approve of her bike. Itís worked about 10% of the time for me!
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Yeah, I definitely need some more positive reinforcement from the C&V Forum. Otherwise she will probably continue to prefer the 50 pound Schwinn Breeze 3 speed that is too small for her.
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There is a BF member named Marti, but he/she only posted a few times in 2009. Are you referencing the Twitters or something else?
Oh, letís try that again: calling @martl!
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