Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Classic & Vintage (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/)
-   -   Milano Sport? (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/125473-milano-sport.html)

lokerola 07-27-05 01:42 PM

Milano Sport?
 
I picked up a beat-up Milano Sport today at my secret supply of used bikes. Does anyone know about these bikes? I found one thread via search that said they were made by Masi; anyone have any info beyond that? Some of it's specs:

Campy down tube shifters (with "Brev Int Campagnolo" on the sides)
Campy Front and rear deraillers
Unknown cranks and pedals
Rusty 27" rims, bolt ins.
The head tube and main decals are all shiny and have the words "Milano Sport"
Sticker on the seat tube says "Made in Italy"
Sticker on the top tube has three lines that spell out the big three races, Giro, TDF, and Vueleta.
The frame and fork are white.

I'm at work, so I'll post pics this evening.
Thanks.

lotek 07-27-05 01:57 PM

I don't think the Milano sport is related to Masi.
Alberto Masi lost the right to use the name Masi he markets (or marketed)
Milano. The Milano Sport is I believe an older frame.
I would say probably contract built (billato?) and imported here (U.S.)
for bike boom years.

Marty

lokerola 07-27-05 02:10 PM

Marty,

Thanks for the info. It strikes me as an early 1980's bike (the shiny stickers), but it is a 12 speed, so I guess it could be a little earlier. The frame is scratched up and has some surface rust, but it appears to be in pretty good shape underneith the paint- no cracks or bends that I can see. I'm thinking of stiripping the parts, stripping and repainting the frame myself and tranferring all the good Campy GS bits off of my Raleigh onto this frame, since it's my size.

Alex

lotek 07-27-05 02:47 PM

just an FYI Milano Sport is also the name of Alberto Masi's distribution
company in the US (Chester Conn.) that may be the connection that
you were thinking of. They have nothing to do with Milano Sport bicycles though.

lokerola 07-27-05 04:14 PM

Interesting you say that - I just contacted Greg over at Milano Sport and he's going to try and help me identify the bike.

Thanks.

lokerola 07-28-05 06:41 AM

8 Attachment(s)
Here are some pics of the Milano; if anyone can help id this old bike, that would be cool. It's steel, 12 speed Campy, 27" rims, centerpull Balilla brakes, ITM stem, and decals that say Milano Sport and Made in Italy.

thanks!!!!!!!

e-RICHIE 07-28-05 07:07 AM

that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport.
what do i mean? it's a factory frame branded
in italy in the 50s/60s/70s. no relation at all
to the modern era frame of the same name,
or to the masi brand.
e-RICHIE©™®

lokerola 07-28-05 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport.
wtf does he mean? it's a factory frame branded
in italy in the 50s/60s/70s. no relation at all
to the modern era frame of the same name,
or to the masi brand.
e-RICHIE©™®

Who are you referring to when you say "that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport"? I guess I'm a little confused when you say "wtf does he mean" He who?

Sounds like this is some no-name Italian brand labeled Milano Sport (but not made by a company called Milano Sport) and imported to the US sometime in the 60's or 70's?

And I'm also still trying to determine of there ever was a bike maker called Milano Sport. Hmmmm.

Thanks

e-RICHIE 07-28-05 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by lokerola
Who are you referring to when you say "that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport"? I guess I'm a little confused when you say "wtf does he mean" He who?

Sounds like this is some no-name Italian brand labeled Milano Sport (but not made by a company called Milano Sport) and imported to the US sometime in the 60's or 70's?

And I'm also still trying to determine of there ever was a bike maker called Milano Sport. Hmmmm.

Thanks


i am parodying myself, as in, heckling my
opinion before i expound on it!!
you are correct in your interpretation; milano sport,
as in your bicycle, was a brand from italy that most
likely was nothing more than a company that sourced
out factory frames from various cottage industry
job shops. my point was your bicycle has nothing
in common (except the name) with the 90s era
bicycles branded by the usa importer of alberto
masi frames.
e-RICHIE©™®

lokerola 07-28-05 08:43 AM

Gothcha'! I'm a little slow this morning. Must get more coffee. Anyway, thanks for helping out.

Alex

lotek 07-28-05 08:54 AM

I think the "wtf does he mean" threw
him off (it did me at first, had to reread
it a few times).
I thought you were quoting (paraphrasing) something
previously posted.

Marty

e-RICHIE 07-28-05 09:10 AM

i edited my text for clarity

SingleSpeeDemon 06-23-06 09:33 PM

Milano Sport
 
I'm new here, but I just grabbed a Milano Sport from eBay. I am no expert, but it seems evident that there is no way Masi is affiliated or responsible for the production of this bike. I'm viewing my latest find as a department-store quality bike, but I love it already because...

1. It's Italian
2. It's vintage
3. It has character (unlike the dime-a-dozen Treks--thanks to Lance--that I see on my favorite route)

As soon as I get it, I'll put up some pics. I would love to meet fellow owners/riders...also mine is slated to become a fixie, so I may have parts for someone else's restore!

-Andrew

gudari 08-31-12 11:26 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Hello!! I have a "Milano Sport" bike but i dont know its origin...

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270389http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=270390

GreatG 05-28-19 07:18 PM

Milano Sport?
 

Originally Posted by lokerola (Post 1409107)
I picked up a beat-up Milano Sport today at my secret supply of used bikes. Does anyone know about these bikes? I found one thread via search that said they were made by Masi; anyone have any info beyond that? Some of it's specs:

Campy down tube shifters (with "Brev Int Campagnolo" on the sides)
Campy Front and rear deraillers
Unknown cranks and pedals
Rusty 27" rims, bolt ins.
The head tube and main decals are all shiny and have the words "Milano Sport"
Sticker on the seat tube says "Made in Italy"
Sticker on the top tube has three lines that spell out the big three races, Giro, TDF, and Vueleta.
The frame and fork are white.

I'm at work, so I'll post pics this evening.
Thanks.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...abea6ca69.jpeg

Sad shape Milano Sport, any idea where I could find the serial number?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3bcb2b491.jpeg

Someone said this might be a Peugeot UO8 variant?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b87d4298a.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8079ec29f.jpeg

juvela 05-28-19 08:02 PM

-----

Hello GreatG & welcome to the forum! :)

This is a bottom of the line Chiorda product from near to 1972 time.

You will be able to read a specific date from the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...435b960ecf.jpg


Note features such as plate style bridges, bulge-formed head, five-piece solid axle hubs & stamped sheet fork crown cap.

Machines sold in chainstores rather than bicycle shops.

On some of their products serial is on head, some on dropouts and some on shell; while many others have none.

---

Frame is constructed of Agrati bits -

its bulge-formed head is "AM" pattern

its seat lug is is part of "AMERICA" set

the bottom bracket shell, Nr. 000.8507 is part of the "AM" set

dropouts are item Nr. 000.8002

fork ends item Nr. 000.8010

fork crown and cap cannot be seen well enough in your images to identify

---

Hope this helps you a bit.

-----

browngw 12-11-20 09:19 PM

Mixte Milano Sport
 
This one was rescued by a friend and given to me yesterday. It could be a pretty bike with some love.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...97ed672c17.jpg

juvela 12-12-20 01:26 PM

-----

date appears 1970-72
you may find a specific date marked on the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur

frame constructed of Ágrati bulge-formed head of the ""ÄM"" pattern

fork crown, from what can be seen in image, appears to be Agrati "BRIANZA" pattern

frame pattern is termed a berceau

headset is Agrati model in economy zinc finish, pattern also offered in chrome finish. may be able to identify a specific model with more images

chainset is Agrati Thompson pattern, in this design the spindle is permanently affixed to the drive side arm
the non-drive end of the spindle is splined
the spindle hole in the non-drive crank arm has matching splines
what at first may appear to be a crank cotter is actually a pinchbolt

possible that drive train may be all 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would normally expect on a derialleur geared bicycle

steel brake calipers appear to exhibit economy zinc finish

seat lug, bottom bracket shell and frame ends Agrati

pedals and hubs may be Agrati

wheel rims may be Maccari

-----

browngw 12-12-20 04:19 PM

Some more shots of the Milano Sport.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d8e0cf81c3.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f001f20613.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...19dde25358.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc9ea60952.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ecf9d00ed3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...337f72bb50.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc41aaba6a.jpg

juvela 12-25-20 08:13 PM

-----

thank you for these additional pictures ;)

---

frame:

the bulge-formed head of Agrati pattern "AM is item nr. 021.8046

seat lug is part of the Agrati "AM" & "SPORT" ensembles and is item nr. 090.8059

bottom bracket shell is part of the Agrati "AM" & "SPORT" ensembles and is item nr. 000.8507

fork ends are Agrati item nr. 000.8010

dropouts are Agrati item nr. 000.8002

fork crown cap is Agrati item nr. 202.9110

if crown beneath it has same shape it is item nr. 001.8518

laterals bridge is likely to be an Agrati item as well but do not have its stock number

the two plate style bridges on the stays are also Agrati but do not have their numbers

---

fittings -

headset is Agrati item nr. 000.3071

pedals look to be Agrati item nr. 000.0631

chainset: if one wished it would be possible to replace the set with a tradtional three-piece one without any need for modfication. the bottom bracket shell has italian threads and is 70mm in width, although the present chainset does not use the threads. it has press-in bearing cups similar of american style one-piece chainsets.

this image shows a cottered Thompson type bottom bracket assembly (do not have an illustration of the type employed on the bicycle) -


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec3d1b3d6a.jpg
---

dating -

the back side of the machine's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur may be marked with a date as here -


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69c6bb9820.jpg

two other spots to check for possible date markings are the end of the handlebar beneath the handgrips and the wheel rims

---

Chiorda must have produced this model under many score of names for importers and chainstores as well as their own badges.

One such which came through my workshop was a Kmart AllPro bicycle.

---

shall be interest to read if you discover drive train to be 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would usually expect for a derailleur system

all best wishes with it

-----

browngw 01-04-21 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 21829680)
-----

date appears 1970-72
you may find a specific date marked on the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur

frame constructed of Ágrati bulge-formed head of the ""ÄM"" pattern

fork crown, from what can be seen in image, appears to be Agrati "BRIANZA" pattern

frame pattern is termed a berceau

headset is Agrati model in economy zinc finish, pattern also offered in chrome finish. may be able to identify a specific model with more images

chainset is Agrati Thompson pattern, in this design the spindle is permanently affixed to the drive side arm
the non-drive end of the spindle is splined
the spindle hole in the non-drive crank arm has matching splines
what at first may appear to be a crank cotter is actually a pinchbolt

possible that drive train may be all 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would normally expect on a derialleur geared bicycle

steel brake calipers appear to exhibit economy zinc finish

seat lug, bottom bracket shell and frame ends Agrati

pedals and hubs may be Agrati

wheel rims may be Maccari

-----

Made it out to the bicycle shed yesterday and had a closer look at the drive train. juvela was correct. It is a 1/8 chain similar to a single speed or internal hub setup.

Bull519 05-09-21 04:42 PM

Vintage Milano Sport
 
I have a yellow 10 speed bike with the Milano sport sticker on front. It has a Campione Del Monco ciclocross D-Italia gyrc tour De France 1965 sticker on cross bar. It has been in basement for years just wondering if it is worth anything.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:51 AM.


Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.