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Milano Sport?
I picked up a beat-up Milano Sport today at my secret supply of used bikes. Does anyone know about these bikes? I found one thread via search that said they were made by Masi; anyone have any info beyond that? Some of it's specs:
Campy down tube shifters (with "Brev Int Campagnolo" on the sides) Campy Front and rear deraillers Unknown cranks and pedals Rusty 27" rims, bolt ins. The head tube and main decals are all shiny and have the words "Milano Sport" Sticker on the seat tube says "Made in Italy" Sticker on the top tube has three lines that spell out the big three races, Giro, TDF, and Vueleta. The frame and fork are white. I'm at work, so I'll post pics this evening. Thanks. |
I don't think the Milano sport is related to Masi.
Alberto Masi lost the right to use the name Masi he markets (or marketed) Milano. The Milano Sport is I believe an older frame. I would say probably contract built (billato?) and imported here (U.S.) for bike boom years. Marty |
Marty,
Thanks for the info. It strikes me as an early 1980's bike (the shiny stickers), but it is a 12 speed, so I guess it could be a little earlier. The frame is scratched up and has some surface rust, but it appears to be in pretty good shape underneith the paint- no cracks or bends that I can see. I'm thinking of stiripping the parts, stripping and repainting the frame myself and tranferring all the good Campy GS bits off of my Raleigh onto this frame, since it's my size. Alex |
just an FYI Milano Sport is also the name of Alberto Masi's distribution
company in the US (Chester Conn.) that may be the connection that you were thinking of. They have nothing to do with Milano Sport bicycles though. |
Interesting you say that - I just contacted Greg over at Milano Sport and he's going to try and help me identify the bike.
Thanks. |
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Here are some pics of the Milano; if anyone can help id this old bike, that would be cool. It's steel, 12 speed Campy, 27" rims, centerpull Balilla brakes, ITM stem, and decals that say Milano Sport and Made in Italy.
thanks!!!!!!! |
that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport.
what do i mean? it's a factory frame branded in italy in the 50s/60s/70s. no relation at all to the modern era frame of the same name, or to the masi brand. e-RICHIE©™® |
Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport.
wtf does he mean? it's a factory frame branded in italy in the 50s/60s/70s. no relation at all to the modern era frame of the same name, or to the masi brand. e-RICHIE©™® Sounds like this is some no-name Italian brand labeled Milano Sport (but not made by a company called Milano Sport) and imported to the US sometime in the 60's or 70's? And I'm also still trying to determine of there ever was a bike maker called Milano Sport. Hmmmm. Thanks |
Originally Posted by lokerola
Who are you referring to when you say "that is a milano sport, NOT a milano sport"? I guess I'm a little confused when you say "wtf does he mean" He who?
Sounds like this is some no-name Italian brand labeled Milano Sport (but not made by a company called Milano Sport) and imported to the US sometime in the 60's or 70's? And I'm also still trying to determine of there ever was a bike maker called Milano Sport. Hmmmm. Thanks i am parodying myself, as in, heckling my opinion before i expound on it!! you are correct in your interpretation; milano sport, as in your bicycle, was a brand from italy that most likely was nothing more than a company that sourced out factory frames from various cottage industry job shops. my point was your bicycle has nothing in common (except the name) with the 90s era bicycles branded by the usa importer of alberto masi frames. e-RICHIE©™® |
Gothcha'! I'm a little slow this morning. Must get more coffee. Anyway, thanks for helping out.
Alex |
I think the "wtf does he mean" threw
him off (it did me at first, had to reread it a few times). I thought you were quoting (paraphrasing) something previously posted. Marty |
i edited my text for clarity
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Milano Sport
I'm new here, but I just grabbed a Milano Sport from eBay. I am no expert, but it seems evident that there is no way Masi is affiliated or responsible for the production of this bike. I'm viewing my latest find as a department-store quality bike, but I love it already because...
1. It's Italian 2. It's vintage 3. It has character (unlike the dime-a-dozen Treks--thanks to Lance--that I see on my favorite route) As soon as I get it, I'll put up some pics. I would love to meet fellow owners/riders...also mine is slated to become a fixie, so I may have parts for someone else's restore! -Andrew |
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Hello!! I have a "Milano Sport" bike but i dont know its origin...
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Milano Sport?
Originally Posted by lokerola
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I picked up a beat-up Milano Sport today at my secret supply of used bikes. Does anyone know about these bikes? I found one thread via search that said they were made by Masi; anyone have any info beyond that? Some of it's specs:
Campy down tube shifters (with "Brev Int Campagnolo" on the sides) Campy Front and rear deraillers Unknown cranks and pedals Rusty 27" rims, bolt ins. The head tube and main decals are all shiny and have the words "Milano Sport" Sticker on the seat tube says "Made in Italy" Sticker on the top tube has three lines that spell out the big three races, Giro, TDF, and Vueleta. The frame and fork are white. I'm at work, so I'll post pics this evening. Thanks. Sad shape Milano Sport, any idea where I could find the serial number? https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3bcb2b491.jpeg Someone said this might be a Peugeot UO8 variant? https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b87d4298a.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8079ec29f.jpeg |
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Hello GreatG & welcome to the forum! :) This is a bottom of the line Chiorda product from near to 1972 time. You will be able to read a specific date from the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...435b960ecf.jpg Note features such as plate style bridges, bulge-formed head, five-piece solid axle hubs & stamped sheet fork crown cap. Machines sold in chainstores rather than bicycle shops. On some of their products serial is on head, some on dropouts and some on shell; while many others have none. --- Frame is constructed of Agrati bits - its bulge-formed head is "AM" pattern its seat lug is is part of "AMERICA" set the bottom bracket shell, Nr. 000.8507 is part of the "AM" set dropouts are item Nr. 000.8002 fork ends item Nr. 000.8010 fork crown and cap cannot be seen well enough in your images to identify --- Hope this helps you a bit. ----- |
Mixte Milano Sport
This one was rescued by a friend and given to me yesterday. It could be a pretty bike with some love.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...97ed672c17.jpg |
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date appears 1970-72 you may find a specific date marked on the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur frame constructed of Ágrati bulge-formed head of the ""ÄM"" pattern fork crown, from what can be seen in image, appears to be Agrati "BRIANZA" pattern frame pattern is termed a berceau headset is Agrati model in economy zinc finish, pattern also offered in chrome finish. may be able to identify a specific model with more images chainset is Agrati Thompson pattern, in this design the spindle is permanently affixed to the drive side arm the non-drive end of the spindle is splined the spindle hole in the non-drive crank arm has matching splines what at first may appear to be a crank cotter is actually a pinchbolt possible that drive train may be all 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would normally expect on a derialleur geared bicycle steel brake calipers appear to exhibit economy zinc finish seat lug, bottom bracket shell and frame ends Agrati pedals and hubs may be Agrati wheel rims may be Maccari ----- |
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thank you for these additional pictures ;) --- frame: the bulge-formed head of Agrati pattern "AM is item nr. 021.8046 seat lug is part of the Agrati "AM" & "SPORT" ensembles and is item nr. 090.8059 bottom bracket shell is part of the Agrati "AM" & "SPORT" ensembles and is item nr. 000.8507 fork ends are Agrati item nr. 000.8010 dropouts are Agrati item nr. 000.8002 fork crown cap is Agrati item nr. 202.9110 if crown beneath it has same shape it is item nr. 001.8518 laterals bridge is likely to be an Agrati item as well but do not have its stock number the two plate style bridges on the stays are also Agrati but do not have their numbers --- fittings - headset is Agrati item nr. 000.3071 pedals look to be Agrati item nr. 000.0631 chainset: if one wished it would be possible to replace the set with a tradtional three-piece one without any need for modfication. the bottom bracket shell has italian threads and is 70mm in width, although the present chainset does not use the threads. it has press-in bearing cups similar of american style one-piece chainsets. this image shows a cottered Thompson type bottom bracket assembly (do not have an illustration of the type employed on the bicycle) - https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec3d1b3d6a.jpg --- dating - the back side of the machine's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur may be marked with a date as here - https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69c6bb9820.jpg two other spots to check for possible date markings are the end of the handlebar beneath the handgrips and the wheel rims --- Chiorda must have produced this model under many score of names for importers and chainstores as well as their own badges. One such which came through my workshop was a Kmart AllPro bicycle. --- shall be interest to read if you discover drive train to be 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would usually expect for a derailleur system all best wishes with it ----- |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 21829680)
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date appears 1970-72 you may find a specific date marked on the backside of the cycle's Simplex Prestige rear derailleur frame constructed of Ágrati bulge-formed head of the ""ÄM"" pattern fork crown, from what can be seen in image, appears to be Agrati "BRIANZA" pattern frame pattern is termed a berceau headset is Agrati model in economy zinc finish, pattern also offered in chrome finish. may be able to identify a specific model with more images chainset is Agrati Thompson pattern, in this design the spindle is permanently affixed to the drive side arm the non-drive end of the spindle is splined the spindle hole in the non-drive crank arm has matching splines what at first may appear to be a crank cotter is actually a pinchbolt possible that drive train may be all 1/8" rather than the 3/32" one would normally expect on a derialleur geared bicycle steel brake calipers appear to exhibit economy zinc finish seat lug, bottom bracket shell and frame ends Agrati pedals and hubs may be Agrati wheel rims may be Maccari ----- |
Vintage Milano Sport
I have a yellow 10 speed bike with the Milano sport sticker on front. It has a Campione Del Monco ciclocross D-Italia gyrc tour De France 1965 sticker on cross bar. It has been in basement for years just wondering if it is worth anything.
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I owned a Milano Sport, 10 speed, Simplex, purchased from a Massachusetts bike shop in 1971; hitchhiked there, paid $115 cash, rode it home.
Commuted daily to summer jobs for 3 years, recovered it after a theft (thieves broke a cement seat in front of a Gino's restaurant to slip the chain), took a road trip from Plymouth to Marthas Vineyard to Hartford end of one summer. Eventually rode to Montreal for a long college weekend. It was replaced by a Fuji Club in 1984, and left behind in an out of state move. |
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