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Lbxpdx 07-23-22 09:00 PM

Suntour GT cage question.
 
At the local co-op I picked up a VGT Luxe Derailer or cheap and found this GT cage in the bin with the rest of the derailleurs. This cage looked exactly like the cage on a cyclone MKII GT, so is it same to assume I could swap this cage onto a standard cyclone and it will become a long cage version?


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...48272a588.jpeg

smontanaro 07-24-22 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lbxpdx (Post 22585434)
At the local co-op I picked up a VGT Luxe Derailer or cheap and found this GT cage in the bin with the rest of the derailleurs. This cage looked exactly like the cage on a cyclone MKII GT, so is it same to assume I could swap this cage onto a standard cyclone and it will become a long cage version?

I've never tried it with a MkII, but have done it with an early Cyclone (if my memory isn't playing tricks on me). steelbikeguy will know for sure.

steelbikeguy 07-24-22 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 22585561)
I've never tried it with a MkII, but have done it with an early Cyclone (if my memory isn't playing tricks on me). steelbikeguy will know for sure.

dang it, now I have to go and look up the difference between the 1st generation and the Mk II. ;)

To be honest, I wasn't sure I could tell you what the difference is, but a quick perusal of my various teardown photos produced a good shot of a Mk II cage:

https://live.staticflickr.com/8661/2...bda73a_c_d.jpg

the key (only?) difference is that the Mk II has a hex hole for the lower pivot shaft, while the 1st generation has the threaded round hole as shown in the OP's photo.

It is possible to put a 1st gen GT cage on a 1st gen short cage Cyclone body, which I've done. The short-cage Cyclones come up on ebay for a bit less money than the GT's, possibly because low gears are becoming more popular among the vintage crowd. Having a spare GT cage such as this one would be handy for such a conversion.

Steve in Peoria

DiegoFrogs 07-24-22 09:22 AM

At least on the first generation GT, you'll need the long-cage bolt.

The short-cage version has the cage pivot bolt screw into the cage, whereas on the GT version the cage pivot bolt also does double-duty as the axle for the jockey pulley.

steelbikeguy 07-24-22 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs (Post 22585752)
At least on the first generation GT, you'll need the long-cage bolt.

The short-cage version has the cage pivot bolt screw into the cage, whereas on the GT version the cage pivot bolt also does double-duty as the axle for the jockey pulley.

Thanks for that extra, essential detail! It completely slipped my mind.

Some shots of the short cage derailleur and pivot bolt....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...67776d_c_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f9a602_c_d.jpg


and the GT version....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7170de_c_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...928638_c_d.jpg

Steve in Peoria


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