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Old 07-31-22, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ago15
These are on another level (or two) above my Tesch. I knew a few riders that raced on S-22s back in the day, all in crits. That’s where they excelled. Were these Mercets ever raced or were they more of a gentleman’s racer?
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I doubt they have any racing pedigree whatsoever, but I’d be interested to read the OP’s answer.
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All I get from looking at the cable routings and parts specs of the OP's posts is a profound hatred for bike mechanics.
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Originally Posted by smd4
If only looked at as art, I think these frames succeed. I think I would have been drooling had I seen one at the 1987 Interbike show.

As efficient racing bikes, however, I now see their limitations and drawbacks.
What limitations and drawbacks? Mine will run circles around my Cinelli SC.
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Personally, I have no mixed feelings about your Casati, it is beautiful. I really like the adjustable derailleur stops on the head tube. Using a functional braze-on and making it even better. Can a conventional BB be used?

Originally Posted by Oldguyonoldbike
I have a fillet brazed Casati that I have mixed feelings about. I’m curious to hear the experts’ take on the welds here.




Seat post is held by an internal clamp. There’s a hex bolt accessible from the other side of the frame. I never have liked the inelegant transition from the oversized seat tube.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
What limitations and drawbacks? Mine will run circles around my Cinelli SC.
Mark laid them out pretty well in post no. 11. Not sure what “running circles” means, but for race pedigree and ease of maintenance, I’ll take my Cinelli SC any day.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Personally, I have no mixed feelings about your Casati, it is beautiful. I really like the adjustable derailleur stops on the head tube. Using a functional braze-on and making it even better. Can a conventional BB be used?
Thanks! And yes, it has a standard Italian threaded bottom bracket.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Mark laid them out pretty well in post no. 11. Not sure what “running circles” means, but for race pedigree and ease of maintenance, I’ll take my Cinelli SC any day.
What ease of maintenance are you talking about?

And your Corsa would lose.
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@ smd4 + Atlas Shrugged

During the month of August I will spend some days of vacations with Olivier CSUKA and Jean Paul Routens.
I think these names speak to you ... if not before searching in the web, it means that you have a f... problem with the top bikes world
I will publish some pictures of all of us together and ...with some Mercet.

P.S Atlas,, can you tell me more about you and send me some pictures of your work, but only by PM, it's to show to Olivier... Thx
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
What ease of maintenance are you talking about?

And your Corsa would lose.
As a mechanic, I sure wouldn’t want to adjust those brakes or seatposts, or thread any of those cables. But honestly, I’m happy you enjoy your bike.

So how many races have Mercets won, compared to SC’s?
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Originally Posted by Ago15
@ smd4 + Atlas Shrugged

During the month of August I will spend some days of vacations with Olivier CSUKA and Jean Paul Routens.
I think these names speak to you ... if not before searching in the web, it means that you have a f... problem with the top bikes world
I will publish some pictures of all of us together and ...with some Mercet.

P.S Atlas,, can you tell me more about you and send me some pictures of your work, but only by PM, it's to show to Olivier... Thx

Alexandre, dire aux membres qu'ils ont un
f**** problem n'est vraiment la bonne maniere d'avoir un capital de sympathie
courtoisie et un brin d'humour est la bonne facon de faire
chill man
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Originally Posted by smd4
As a mechanic, I sure wouldn’t want to adjust those brakes or seatposts, or thread any of those cables. But honestly, I’m happy you enjoy your bike.

So how many races have Mercets won, compared to SC’s?
You have the wrong bike. What is a Mercets?
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
What is a Mercets?
Plural of Mercet. The bikes that are the subject of this thread.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Plural of Mercet. The bikes that are the subject of this thread.
You even have the thread wrong. The subject is Top Fillet Brazing Vintage.

Sooo...
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
You even have the thread wrong. The subject is Top Fillet Brazing Vintage.

Sooo...
Ooooh! Got me good there!
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Originally Posted by reissue59

courtoisie et un brin d'humour est la bonne facon de faire
Words to live by (even tho, as most of us, I slip up there and again)

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Words to live by (even tho, as most of us, I slip up there and again)

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well, since he is a french speaking member and so am I, a little direction in his native language might alleviate the communication barrier.
i like the bikes and would like to know more
Cordialement...
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For fillets, I've always been partial to our local builder Steve Rex.

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Originally Posted by lasauge
Wow, those brake mounts in particular are interesting.
Originally Posted by smd4
there are no brake bolts on the backs of the forks or brake bridges!! How does that work, I wonder?
I suspect that there are threaded pieces brazed into the brake bridge and fork crown (like water bottle mounts) into which the pivot bolts thread.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
I suspect that there are threaded pieces brazed into the brake bridge and fork crown (like water bottle mounts) into which the pivot bolts thread.
What if you install them that way, but when they’re tightened, the caliper arms are pointing straight up? Or towards the side?
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Originally Posted by smd4
What if you install them that way, but when they’re tightened, the caliper arms are pointing straight up? Or towards the side?
Nobody said i would be easy.

You could use spacers to position the bolt in the necessary orientation. It would take some trial and error, but should work. A nit-picker might measure the thickness of the necessary spacers and machine a custom one of the proper thickness for a clean look.
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I would put dave kirk's fillet brazing up there as good s or better than anybody else's





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