I take it this is not English Thread
I got a phone call from a friend who works at a community cycle center. They got a box of random parts including a campy six speed gear set. (I thought they were called cassettes but someone corrected me)
anyway, the box said “English Thread” it never occurred to me that Italian parts could also be threaded for other countries. I am also under the assumption that if my record hubs were English threaded. They would say England instead of Italy. Amiright? https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bb5fdc413.jpeg |
Italy is the country of origin. The 35x24 is the size/thread.
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Salvaged from the Parts Bin... Well ya never know, sometimes even when its marked. Or French... Ha
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Originally Posted by Robvolz
(Post 22601607)
I got a phone call from a friend who works at a community cycle center. They got a box of random parts including a campy six speed gear set. (I thought they were called cassettes but someone corrected me)
anyway, the box said “English Thread” it never occurred to me that Italian parts could also be threaded for other countries. I am also under the assumption that if my record hubs were English threaded. They would say England instead of Italy. Amiright? I've never tried to thread English to Italian or the other way around but I have read of others doing so |
Close works in horseshoes and hand grenades.
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Originally Posted by Robvolz
(Post 22601607)
I am also under the assumption that if my record hubs were English threaded. They would say England instead of Italy. Amiright?
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And joking - this is an English thread! Every word of it. In fact, other countries are referenced by their English spellings. (I'm going for a ride. I clearly need it.)
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So is "Jtaly" an English or Italian spelling?
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Originally Posted by dweenk
(Post 22601838)
Close works in horseshoes and hand grenades.
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Such Knowledge on this Forum!
Originally Posted by RustyJames
(Post 22601662)
Italy is the country of origin. The 35x24 is the size/thread.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99e46dc799.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd4c271523.jpg |
Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 22601924)
which one should I send your way?
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Yes , Italian thread: 35mm diameter x 24TPI
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Originally Posted by machinist42
(Post 22601954)
(Probably from Campagnolo's Factory outside London, in County Bullshire?)
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Originally Posted by machinist42
(Post 22601954)
So I take it this hub originated in the UK? (Probably from Campagnolo's Factory outside London, in County Bullshire?)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99e46dc799.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd4c271523.jpg Some day someone will explain to me the mish-mash of metric/fractional on bikes and how that came to be. 9/16” spindles thread into 170mm arms that ride on 1/4” bearings in a 68mm wide bottom bracket. Pick a unit of measurements and go with it!! |
Originally Posted by RustyJames
(Post 22602762)
9/16” spindles thread into 170mm arms that ride on 1/4” bearings in a 68mm wide bottom bracket.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
(Post 22602820)
...and turn chainrings with a 110mm BCD that drive a chain with links spaced 1/2" on center....
”Which 26” wheel?” 😵💫 |
Per Sheldon: 'The older British and Italian standards use the same thread pitch but a very slightly different thread diameter, and are generally interchangeable. However, for strong riders and on tandems, it is best not to mix and match -- freewheels sometimes do strip the threads of aluminium hubs.'
I've used ISO freewheels on Italian-threaded hubs for a few years now without problems. I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that it's a bad idea to go back to an Italian-threaded freewheel, but since it's 2022 and I live in the US, I'm unlikely to want to that. |
Originally Posted by madpogue
(Post 22602577)
Actually, I believe it's in Horsefeathershire?
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 22603189)
where, by law and Church, they use nought but Whitworth measurements.
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Originally Posted by RustyJames
(Post 22601662)
Italy is the country of origin. The 35x24 is the size/thread.
as opposed to English thread. this hub was post CPSC by co-incidence. prior one needed a Campagnolo decoder ring. no groove - italian one groove english two grooves- French. ( most of the time unless it was plain) Campagnolo dropped French hub threading as soon as practical. the differences between Italian and English are primarily the inclusive angle of the individual thread, one at 60 degrees, the other at 55. and I don't recall which is which, that is what Sutherland's is for. |
Originally Posted by RustyJames
(Post 22602762)
Some day someone will explain to me the mish-mash of metric/fractional on bikes and how that came to be. 9/16” spindles thread into 170mm arms that ride on 1/4” bearings in a 68mm wide bottom bracket. Pick a unit of measurements and go with it!!
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