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Always peel the tape off before buying

Old 08-14-22, 05:58 AM
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Always peel the tape off before buying

Little surprise covered with electrical tape.
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Old 08-14-22, 06:31 AM
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Braze on ... twist off. No problem.

Good argument for stainless steel bolts for water bottle cages.
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Old 08-14-22, 08:48 AM
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Thatís not pleasant.
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Old 08-14-22, 08:55 AM
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Kinda reminds me of a flouroscent pink Pina Veneto I had. After buying it on ebay (for a really good price), I noticed that the ST bottlecage fit really close. Hand drilled, albeit pretty straight. No rivnut, just the screws catching enough threads to hold the cage. If I'd put a full bottle in, it would have ripped right out.

Fortunately, this was in 2004 so I had no problem passing it on to a fixie riding hipster.
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Old 08-14-22, 09:01 AM
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Wish I had a picture, but the scummiest bike for sale I ever saw was a Specialized Allez Pro at a Play it Again Sports store. The very large price tag was in a strange spot, none of their other bikes had a price tag located anywhere near this location.

So I asked them if anything was under that large tag. Answer "no of course not, we wouldn't do anything like that." Me: "So you wouldn't. mind me pulling the tag off?" Them: "No, go ahead." Me, peeling it off: "Well look, that is a huge DENT under that tag".

It also had mechanical issues: Me: "the front shifter doesn't work," Them: "We tested it, it shifts fine to all three chain rings". Me: "well this bike only has two chain rings."......

I have learned to always remove tape, or anything not original to frame. How did I learn this? Through making buying mistakes naturally.... Learn from others, or learn from your own mistakes. Those are the two choices. I recommend the former, but I usually learn from the latter. Random stickers are harder to deal with, as they can be all over the frame. There I base my offer on what the parts are worth. If the seller thinks their bike is worth more, I am OK with walking away. Sometimes, the BEST decision on buying a bike is NOT buying the bike. Another lesson I learned the hard way. I think I see a pattern here.

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Old 08-14-22, 12:18 PM
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"Experience is a dear school, but the fool will learn in no other." I always liked that proverb.
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Tape?!

Banana sticker(s) is what always, always goes over a dent.
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Old 08-14-22, 12:55 PM
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Ya just need a better sticker... Ha

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thx for sharing the tip!
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post


I'm curious about the Allen key shaping of the intact bottle boss. Never seen that before, and can't understand for the life of me why it would need such a feature. Every bottle braze-on I've seen has simply been internally threaded; with no provision for a hex key.

Makes me wonder if a PO thought it could be removed, went at it with a hex key, and caused the damage we see here.

Anybody else have a close-up of a LeMond with this same version of bottle bosses? Because I'm truly curious.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Makes me wonder if a PO thought it could be removed, went at it with a hex key, and caused the damage we see here.
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My assumption is that that's exactly what happened.
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66 View Post
Tape?!

Banana sticker(s) is what always, always goes over a dent.
Geeze, I hope my stem's not dented. 😲 Just goofing. 😁 I tend to eat a lot of bananas, and my bike's green, so this Incredible Hulk/Dole sticker just kinda works. 😋
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude;[url=tel:22610012
22610012]I'm curious about the Allen key shaping of the intact bottle boss. Never seen that before, and can't understand for the life of me why it would need such a feature. Every bottle braze-on I've seen has simply been internally threaded; with no provision for a hex key.

Makes me wonder if a PO thought it could be removed, went at it with a hex key, and caused the damage we see here.

Anybody else have a close-up of a LeMond with this same version of bottle bosses? Because I'm truly curious.

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Might be a part of the insert tool which holds it in place is hexed. The threaded bit that draws it tight would pass through the hex head of the pliers.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Makes me wonder if a PO thought it could be removed, went at it with a hex key, and caused the damage we see here.

Anybody else have a close-up of a LeMond with this same version of bottle bosses? Because I'm truly curious.
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Worked, dinnit?

The three LeMonds that I've had all used that same bottle mount
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"Man, this thing is tight! I know, I'll slip this two-foot piece of galvanized pipe over the allen wrench for more leverage...."

I don't know much about frame repair, but I'd guess that this would be fixable by someone who knows their stuff. Whether it's worth doing is another question, though.
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Ask any hillbilly and they will tell you JB Weld is Duct tapes brother from another mother. After a 40 mile ride today, I think that bottle cage is on there forever.
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Cool bike! I've always wanted a Lemond.
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Ask any hillbilly and they will tell you JB Weld is Duct tapes brother from another mother. After a 40 mile ride today, I think that bottle cage is on there forever.
Excellent!!!
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I think of JB Weld as duct tape's cousin that picked up a steroid addiction while in prison.

(And I just realized how lucky I am that the copious electrical tape used for the Cateye Mity wiring on the Nishiki I bought a month or so ago hid nothing but sticky residue....)
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