5/6 speed freewheel on Normany High Flange Hubs
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Otherwise, SunRace makes a 5-speed freewheel with profiled teeth (can't call it Hyperglide because Shimano trademarked that).
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I agree with @repechage; the truncated teeth are intentional, to improve shifting. IMO, those Shimano 600 and Dura-Ace "Uniglide" freewheels are among the best ever brought to market, much better than any Atom freewheel.
Have you tried flushing it out? Those Shimano 600/Dura-Ace freewheels have an oil port, accessible after removing the sprockets.
N.B. if you change the chain, you'll likely need a new freewheel, as new chains often have trouble seating on worn sprockets, particularly the smallest sprockets. If you do decide to replace the freewheel, I'd suggest a modern one with Hyperglide profile teeth. Mechanically, they're not as nice as the old Uniglide freewheels, but they shift beautifully, and they're cheap enough to replace if/when they give you trouble.
Have you tried flushing it out? Those Shimano 600/Dura-Ace freewheels have an oil port, accessible after removing the sprockets.
N.B. if you change the chain, you'll likely need a new freewheel, as new chains often have trouble seating on worn sprockets, particularly the smallest sprockets. If you do decide to replace the freewheel, I'd suggest a modern one with Hyperglide profile teeth. Mechanically, they're not as nice as the old Uniglide freewheels, but they shift beautifully, and they're cheap enough to replace if/when they give you trouble.
IMO, a Suntour Perfect or ProCompe freewheel would provide a good replacement which can provide the lower gears. Sprockets are readily available.
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Ideally, disassembly, clean-up, and reassembly would effectively address the problem, and allow direct assessment of any worn or broken interior parts. But that's a task most people prefer to avoid, except err… pastorbobnlnh and a few others. The OP could send the freewheel to your "freewheel spa" for refurbishment.
IMO, a Suntour Perfect or ProCompe freewheel would provide a good replacement which can provide the lower gears. Sprockets are readily available.
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Can't find yet a Suntour with higher range available and at a decent price. . On the website i have already mention they have a 5/6 Winner body and a decent amount of sprokets, highest i think is 26 for this body . But seems they don't have necesary spacers to build an ultra 6 for my 120mm frame. I will keep looking , other i think i will buy an Atom to keep the rebuild as much as original parts.
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There are a number of Suntour Ultra 6 freewheels available right now on eBay. Closest ratio one I saw was 13-18; widest was 13-30. I think more than one 14-28 was available NOS.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...wheel&_sacat=0
The NOS versions seem fairly expensive. Used were less.
I don't know whether or not the vendors will ship to your location in Europe.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...wheel&_sacat=0
The NOS versions seem fairly expensive. Used were less.
I don't know whether or not the vendors will ship to your location in Europe.
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Thank you! have seen them , they are way over my budget those high range gear, low range ones are acceptable , i mean i would 50- 80$ for one but shipping and taxed double the value. Need to find some european vendors , cause i live in the other part of the world 😅
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But perhaps better, find a bike co-op and dig through their bins...
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I don't think that Shimano makes a 5-speed freewheel anymore. They still offer 6-speed freewheels, and all their modern production uses Hyperglide profiling.
Otherwise, SunRace makes a 5-speed freewheel with profiled teeth (can't call it Hyperglide because Shimano trademarked that).
Otherwise, SunRace makes a 5-speed freewheel with profiled teeth (can't call it Hyperglide because Shimano trademarked that).
Sunrace 5 Speed Bicycle Freewheel - MFM2A on Amazon.ca for $30.
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Low chance to find them in Europe. I have wrote to the company who sell those cogs and body freewheel to see if the have spacer too. Cheers
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Consider IRD.
https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/...heel#attr=3236
https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/...heel#attr=3236
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My bad, i want Suntour, not Sunrace ..., Sunrace i can find them easy but has nothing to do with vintage products imo.
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You say you don't want Sunrace, but people seem to like them. Either the Sunrace that is "HG compatible" or a 6-speed Shimano HG, along with a new HG chain like the HG71, will improve shifting immensely. I did that upgrade on an old Fuji and the difference was amazing. HG really is better.
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I agree , but on friction shifters idk how much is matter to be ug...hg .. on idex shifters for sure will make a difference. I am not making any upgrade now , next time when i am ready i have a plan to upgrade all from crankset...bb...wheels....paint the frame . And i think 6 speed freewheel doesn't fit to 120mm spaced frame , just ultra from Suntour or compact from Atom. For now i am going as much as possible to keep it original . Cheers!
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Unless you're restoring the bike for a museum display, it shouldn't matter. The profiled teeth on the modern SunRace and Shimano freewheels shift markedly better than SunTour's with either friction or indexed shifting.
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Sure , is a matter of compatibility also - from my knowleadge nothing modern will fit to Normandy Hubs and 120mm frame space . We where talking about Shimano HG....Sunrace 6 speed but they don't fit? I am wrong? In the end , my options are Regina 5 speed , Atom 5 speed, Atom Compact 6 speed , Suntour 5 speed , Suntour Ultra 6 speed , Shimano UG 5 speed and maybe newer shimano 600, UG, 5 speed. Do i have other options too unless i don't have to change wheels...hubs....cold space frame& other stuff? Thank you!
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Modern 6-speed blocks are unlikely to work with 120mm spacing, but SunRace does offer a 5-speed block. Otherwise, you could re-space your frame to 126mm, install a longer hub axle if necessary, and use a 6-speed block.
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Sorin, if you want to preserve originality, we could probably work out what's needed for me to send you an Atom, Maillard, or Regina, that's been cleaned and serviced. Let me dig through what I have on hand here and you can PM me so I can work on a shipping estimate.
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