Need advice on doing a somewhat modern build on a 87 Schwinn Super Sport frame.
10-06-22, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sierra
Love the bike...not so much the color.
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10-06-22, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
What? That's a lovely color! Cycling is the only sport where men are allowed pink colors!
I've wished that they would have switched colors between the Super Sport and the next lesser model, the Tempo.
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10-06-22, 04:45 PM
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Thank you everyone for your input, you have helped me with my decision. I am selling the bike and will put that money towards a bike with more my taste. What did it was someone pointing out that I already have 2 bikes with identical frame geometry.
I still fancy the idea of building up a vintage steel bike frame for my long rides.
Tom
I still fancy the idea of building up a vintage steel bike frame for my long rides.
Tom
10-06-22, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Just a side note to some of the excellent advice already given. Am a YUGE late 80’s Schwinn fan, for context.
The Prologue and Tempo (have owned multiple examples of both) you also own have virtually identical geometry to the SS(have owned a bunch of these as well). Only difference I can tell between the Tempo and SS of that year is the fork crown.
So, building it up as a light touring bike is pretty much like doing that to something you already own. And if that’s what you want, OK.
But.
Consider selling the SS and using the funds to find a low mileage Schwinn Voyageur of the same vintage. Still a Tenax tube frameset, but longer chainstays and designed for exactly what you want to do- credit card touring or long rides. Same ability to accept literally any modern, semi-modern or vintage component group. Cantilver brakes can be easily replaced with Tektro dual pivot calipers. Original components are VERY saleable in today’s market.
On the other hand, if you really want to do a total refurb on the SS including paint go for it. Lifetime bike.
The Prologue and Tempo (have owned multiple examples of both) you also own have virtually identical geometry to the SS(have owned a bunch of these as well). Only difference I can tell between the Tempo and SS of that year is the fork crown.
So, building it up as a light touring bike is pretty much like doing that to something you already own. And if that’s what you want, OK.
But.
Consider selling the SS and using the funds to find a low mileage Schwinn Voyageur of the same vintage. Still a Tenax tube frameset, but longer chainstays and designed for exactly what you want to do- credit card touring or long rides. Same ability to accept literally any modern, semi-modern or vintage component group. Cantilver brakes can be easily replaced with Tektro dual pivot calipers. Original components are VERY saleable in today’s market.
On the other hand, if you really want to do a total refurb on the SS including paint go for it. Lifetime bike.
Tom
10-06-22, 07:02 PM
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I think that's a great choice.
I don't have an '87 Voyageur, but I do have an '84-'85 Voyageur SP.
Although it's a 58 cm, and too big for me(Doc tells me that I'm down to 5' 5") I can ride it and I think it's the most comfortable bike that I own(of 75 or so).
They really got something right with those models!
I don't have an '87 Voyageur, but I do have an '84-'85 Voyageur SP.
Although it's a 58 cm, and too big for me(Doc tells me that I'm down to 5' 5") I can ride it and I think it's the most comfortable bike that I own(of 75 or so).
They really got something right with those models!
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10-06-22, 07:54 PM
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Definitely another vote for a Voyageur SP or any later versions. The SPs got the full complement of modern amenities, namely downtube shifter braze-ons, three bottle cage mounts, pump peg, vertical dropouts(!), and a 27.2mm seatpost diameter(!). I am unsure of the seatpost diameter of post-'85 non-SP Voyageurs. This does come with a 120mm spaced rear triangle, so cold setting for a 130mm axle is advised. Columbus SL/SP tubing, which basically means it's a touring version of a same-year Peloton (which I also had). They are similar in spirit.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Hobbies dont need to be a net $0 affair. They certainly can be, but they dont need to be.
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10-06-22, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyJames
This is my attitude towards C&V bikes. It’s not a business, it’s a hobby and hobbies cost money. How much one chooses to spend on their hobby is nunna my business.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
Definitely another vote for a Voyageur SP or any later versions. The SPs got the full complement of modern amenities, namely downtube shifter braze-ons, three bottle cage mounts, pump peg, vertical dropouts(!), and a 27.2mm seatpost diameter(!). I am unsure of the seatpost diameter of post-'85 non-SP Voyageurs. This does come with a 120mm spaced rear triangle, so cold setting for a 130mm axle is advised. Columbus SL/SP tubing, which basically means it's a touring version of a same-year Peloton (which I also had). They are similar in spirit.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
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10-07-22, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jrg1244
That's a winner! Assuming that's a 25" frame, what's the top tube measure? (I already have the ebay window open searching for my very own Voyageur SP)...
10-08-22, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
Definitely another vote for a Voyageur SP or any later versions. The SPs got the full complement of modern amenities, namely downtube shifter braze-ons, three bottle cage mounts, pump peg, vertical dropouts(!), and a 27.2mm seatpost diameter(!). I am unsure of the seatpost diameter of post-'85 non-SP Voyageurs. This does come with a 120mm spaced rear triangle, so cold setting for a 130mm axle is advised. Columbus SL/SP tubing, which basically means it's a touring version of a same-year Peloton (which I also had). They are similar in spirit.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
Pictured below is mine, with original 27" wheels. You could work the cantis to get 700C, or go side pull calipers with 700C wheels. Good wheels and better tires will definitely elevate/make the bike.
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10-09-22, 01:36 PM
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Just like with other tools and work spaces, it’s hard to justify the cost of setting up to paint one bike frame. But once you do, it’s a big part of the fun to create bikes that are just the color(s) you want or to experiment. I even kept watch for a another bike to customize just so I could use a purple pearl paint that caught my eye. The cost of high-quality custom auto paint is reasonable in the small quantities needed for bikes, and urethane top coats are very durable (although require extra precautions to use).
And I agree with the sentiments that hobbies cost money and you shouldn’t worry about resale value to build up a bike you love. But one of the things I like about customizing bicycles is that the cost is still relatively modest even if you think you’ll have to eat it. Think about people who put tens of thousands of dollars into custom cars and can only hope to see a fraction of it back when they sell.
And I agree with the sentiments that hobbies cost money and you shouldn’t worry about resale value to build up a bike you love. But one of the things I like about customizing bicycles is that the cost is still relatively modest even if you think you’ll have to eat it. Think about people who put tens of thousands of dollars into custom cars and can only hope to see a fraction of it back when they sell.
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10-11-22, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vonfilm
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Thanks. It was a lot of fun. I should never have sold it.
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I thought 1987 was modern...... 
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