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Old 11-04-22, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster View Post
Laced so the valve stem is not in the correct place. The wheels are still strong but after screwing one up and realizing it had no effect one me whatsoever I decided it wasn't worth paying attention to.
If you mean the valve stem is located under crossed spokes, that just makes it more difficult sometimes to install a pump head. I'm sure the wheel strength is not really compromised.
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THE BRAKE CABLES GOES BEHIND THE BAR!!
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
My pet peeve is with posters who brag about his/her "involvement in the sport since 19xx." As if such a statement makes the poster a source of undeniable gospel expertise and anyone who doesn't follow her/his exact guidance, a poser worthy of his/her public ridicule and scorn.
Well I've been riding since 197X and I can tell you with authority.

I MISS GATER GUM!!!!!!

Anybody remember Gater Gum? Usually sold by the piece at any bike shop counter.

Made you spit by golly, It sure did.



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Originally Posted by Robvolz View Post
Well I've been riding since 197X and I can tell you with authority.

I MISS GATER GUM!!!!!!

Anybody remember Gater Gum? Usually sold by the piece at any bike shop counter.

Made you spit by golly, It sure did.



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Pet peeves are my pet peeve, don't need anyone worrying about how my bike is set up, they likely won't be riding it so it doesn't concern them.
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Old 11-04-22, 12:08 PM
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...when somebody takes a classic - like a Raleigh Pro or Colnago Super - and turns it into a beater/rainbike/fixie.
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Old 11-04-22, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr View Post
...when somebody takes a classic - like a Raleigh Pro or Colnago Super - and turns it into a beater/rainbike/fixie.
I actually saw one of these at the MCM marathon last weekend. A spectator had did this to a red/green/white/yellow Basso. I would have avoided him, but I needed a short break. I walked for about 15 seconds and asked him about the bike.
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Old 11-04-22, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
THE BRAKE CABLES GOES BEHIND THE BAR!!
Must not be a pet peeve of mine as I'm just now realizing I've never "fixed" the front on the Kuwahara since I got it.

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Old 11-04-22, 01:07 PM
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2 kinds of business. My business & none of my business.
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr View Post
...when somebody takes a classic - like a Raleigh Pro or Colnago Super - and turns it into a beater/rainbike/fixie.
I had a buddy here in Portland that ran a powedercoating shop. We would get lunch every now and again and I'd see these wonderful old Italian bikes with their cable guides, the shifter bosses, etc hastily ground off to become a fixie.

Torn, because is it better than a bike going to the landfill? Probably.

And if that's their jam and they have good knees, who am I to rain on their parade.

But I saw a Holdsworth and a Masi go through there. The pain!!
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Old 11-04-22, 02:38 PM
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Behold and believe!

yes sir
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what is a BOX 1X kit? (I'm old, out of touch with the kidz of today)

this it is a kit by Box4
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Old 11-04-22, 03:55 PM
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Jacques Anquetil was my first influence when I got into cycling sorta-seriously and occasional amateur racing in the 1970s. I set up my bikes the way he did his in the magazine photos: bar tipped upward just a bit, brake hoods a bit higher than most. It was more comfy, especially on longer rides. And if it worked for Maitre Jacques, it can't be wrong.

When I got an Ironman in 2016 after a 30+ year I-hate-us from cycling, I tried setting it up "correctly," per tradition: drops parallel with the ground, brake hoods low, as shown in the ads with Dave Scott. It absolutely sucked. No way was my then-nearly-60 year old neck and back with years of injuries gonna handle that.

Same when I added a 1993 Trek 5900 OCLV and 2010 or so Diamondback Podium crabon fibber racey frame to the stable. Tried the low and aggressive setup. Didn't last more than a few days before I tipped the bar back slightly and raised the hoods to suit my comfort level.

I'm near the fastest among my age group locally. Setting up my bikes to resemble period correct pro peloton torture devices won't make me any faster.

In almost every photo I've seen, Anquetil had his bar tipped slightly, and hoods raised a bit, compared with his competitors (note the photo with Charly Gaul).

Jacques also wrapped his bars thicker than most, especially in the drops. Dude was all about the comfort.




While less consistent in setups, perhaps because they experimented often with their bikes, I've seen similarly relaxed setups by Greg LeMond and others since the 1970s. LeMond in particular was an advocate of making a bike as comfortable as possible, within the confines of grand tour racing, for the sake of ergonomics and efficiency over a grueling three-week tour. The longest single ride I've done was around 125 miles in a day, 250 miles in two days, and that was a fairly relaxed gran fondo, not a "race," but even in my teens and 20s every little bit helped in making a ride more pleasant and efficient over time and distance.








Besides, a guy who left a trail of kids who looked a lot like him in his wake in every village along the tour must have been doing something right with his bike setup.


Correct bike setup? This is the way.

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Old 11-04-22, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4 View Post
If you mean the valve stem is located under crossed spokes, that just makes it more difficult sometimes to install a pump head. I'm sure the wheel strength is not really compromised.
As long as I don't have 48mm valve stems it's never an issue.
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Old 11-04-22, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post

Besides, a guy who left a trail of kids who looked a lot like him in his wake in every village along the tour must have been doing something right with his bike setup.


Correct bike setup? This is the way.
His only "documented" biological kids were the ones had with his stepdaughter.

Edit: I got that wrong. He has one child with his stepdaughter and one with his stepson's wife. Sheesh. I just finished one of his biographies, "Sex, Lies and Handlebar Tape", but I had to remind myself of what actually happened because it was so bonkers.

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His only "documented" biological kids were the ones had with his stepdaughter.

Edit: I got that wrong. He has one child with his stepdaughter and one with his stepson's wife. Sheesh. I just finished one of his biographies, "Sex, Lies and Handlebar Tape", but I had to remind myself of what actually happened because it was so bonkers.
Jacques must have had a certain charm. For a scoundrel, rogue, a louche fellow, he still was spoken of fondly by most folks in reminiscences after his death. Perhaps those hagiographies were carefully edited to omit the negative stuff. He certainly didn't mince words or play "Who, me?" games about doping accusations or gambling on his own races. But he lived as if he knew he wouldn't grow old enough to feel the need to apologize for anything.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Jacques must have had a certain charm. For a scoundrel, rogue, a louche fellow, he still was spoken of fondly by most folks in reminiscences after his death. Perhaps those hagiographies were carefully edited to omit the negative stuff. He certainly didn't mince words or play "Who, me?" games about doping accusations or gambling on his own races. But he lived as if he knew he wouldn't grow old enough to feel the need to apologize for anything.
Yes, I think his mystique and charm did a lot for him. He probably could have even gotten away with the wrong handlebar angle.
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Perhaps if you added a photo, the newbs would be in the know ...
Or maybe if they read a little further, they could figure it out. ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓
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Or maybe if they read a little further, they could figure it out. ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓
Ha!!
blinders removed.

My bars point towards the rear brake stay. I just don't like the ones pointing to the bottom bracket.

Rock on all y'all.

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Being called a “Newbie” despite being in the forum for two years and posting thoughtful and picture rich posts, always starting with the drive side (thanks to @T-Mar).
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Originally Posted by Robvolz View Post
Ha!!
blinders removed.

My bars point towards the rear brake stay. I just don't like the ones pointing to the bottom bracket.
Some bars are angled so the brake levers point up 45 degrees or more skyward. It’s unbelievable to me that this position is comfortable to anyone using drop bars. Unless they’re using this position so that riding on the hoods alone is comfortable. And if that’s the case, they need to re-evaluate the use of drop bars altogether.
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Some bars are angled so the brake levers point up 45 degrees or more skyward. It’s unbelievable to me that this position is comfortable to anyone using drop bars. Unless they’re using this position so that riding on the hoods alone is comfortable. And if that’s the case, they need to re-evaluate the use of drop bars altogether.
There is no single truth here. Getting the right bar shape for your preferences is important, but even then you may have to compromise:

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Being called a “Newbie” despite being in the forum for two years and posting thoughtful and picture rich posts, always starting with the drive side (thanks to @T-Mar).


All about the numbers, quantity, not quality like so many things now days, participation, banter, etc. matters and can keep the over serious at bay to some extent.

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