Yelbom15

Very confused. I see an ad on facebook for a Cinelli. I ask the guy why it's so cheap and he just replies that he bought some as bulk. Bottom bracket is stamped, Columbus SSP sticker in right location. It looks like a Frankenstein of other parts along with the odd looking fork (vitus?) Risk it for 300? Why would it be fake?

philpeugeot 

Replacement fork is from Soma, made of Tange steel. I'm no expert, but the frame looks like the real deal. $300 doesn't seem too bad, although this is a bit of a mongrel.

roadcrankr

If local, I would've been at the dude's house with three hundred in hand within minutes.
You might get close to the three bills selling those mongrel parts. Then take your time outfitting it properly.

cudak888 

Agreed with roadcrankr - ridiculously good deal if legit.

Would get the $300 cash ready and then ask for date/time to pick it up. If it's not legit, you'll know - they won't be local, will want some sort of e-payment, etc, etc.

If he is legit though...go buy all of his "bulk" at frameset prices

-Kurt

thinktubes 

Yelbom15

It all sounds too good to be true. He’s local, he’s got other bikes listed that he’s selling, and we made a time for 1 tomorrow. Maybe it’s just someone who doesn’t really know a Cinelli? Which may explain the build up?

I can only assume he’ll wake up tomorrow with a hundred messages and think, “Hmmm, maybe 300 is pretty low.”

I will never forgive myself if that happens.

Spaghetti Legs 

Without looking up the Pista, that looks like the Supercorsa with exception, of course (corse?) the track fork ends. I’d say definitely Cinelli and undervalued so either doesn’t know value or it’s stolen.

Soody

Cinelli isn't exactly the grail marque it used to be. They moved downmarket during the 00s fixie craze and now produce some pretty cheap/garish bikes, although garish is part of the italian charm, and these bikes are still quite good for what they are.



The supercorsa pista there is a fancy frame, with some very nice parts on it, but personally I do not like modern faux-retro bikes with quill stems, especially track bikes, and not having the original fork is a big negative, although the (soma?) one on there is very nice. I wouldn't know what to do with it. Probably how it is now, a garish fancy frankenbike, makes the most sense, just with some less stupid bars. So then unless you want to just part it out and make money, or fall into a moneysink trying to make it 'right', do you want a beater fixie? That's what it is.

Yelbom15

Soody I completely agree with that statement. I don’t think I’d throw a lot at it. Maybe find the original fork but then that’s where it all snowballs. We’ll see if it all works out.

I agree Cinelli has marketed itself towards the young and hip “urban” crowd and I’ll still be a fan nonetheless but it’s definitely ventured away from its “Italian Glory” years ago. Somec has taken that spot for me personally.

xiaoman1 

The countdown begins....
I missed a "complete" Cinelli Ex Machina a few years back..... the add was posted very early in the PM and decided to call in the morning......needles to say it was gone.
For 300, I would consider it a deal. My fingers are crossed in your favor, let us know if you get it.

Not the one I missed but you get the picture.
Best, Ben

cudak888 

Sounds good. Tread carefully and ask questions.

-Kurt

juvela

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does anyone recognise the machine's bend?

cannot recall seeing one like it previously


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Robvolz 

We saw a bunch of these come in as donations recently at the local (portland or) co-op.

a some research and the little stickers confirmed they were sold through performance bicycle, the nations largest cycle chain retailer for a short while. More like a house brand with Cinelli cast parts.

doesn’t make it a bad thing, just not the bees knees like a 1968 model B

joesch

Regarding post #8 Soody (quoting not working for me) true and the new steel is very nice and light but not the same as the older lugged cromo frames.

Yelbom15

And like I thought, the seller bumped up the price to $1000. Gah, should’ve taken it the second I saw it.

xiaoman1 

We snooze we loose....S*&t Happens. Sorry you missed it.
Ben

cudak888 

He'll be down to $500 soon if the market is rough. The build and lack of the original front fork does it absolutely no favors.

Did he raise the price when you were there, or before you headed out? Curious what level of jazzbowl he his.

-Kurt

Lattz

I think part of the problem is that Cinelli still sells the Supercorsa Pista even in a really similar green which costs 2700ish new. So if he got like 30 calls in a day that doesnt help.
Same happened to a friend who out of the blue said he wants a Mario Martini SOMEC but mountain bike (yeah he is that funny after having a few road SOMECs) thought what does a goole search cost me just for kicks...
Found him one in Austria for 450 eur. After 20 mins he wrote me the seller has a Martini road SOMEC as well he can have both for 650 but my friend must arrange pickup as he is not willing to ship. While we tried to figure out whom could we send there as it is evening, 10 mins later seller came back he got like 20 calls for immediate pickup and the price of each went up to 800+
Some people dont know what they have unril they try to sell it. Then they get overconfident about the value.

Yelbom15

He changed it before our intended meet up. I think my “high” of the Cinelli died down significantly though thanks to the forum replies! As good as the deal would’ve been, I’ll be alright. 300 dollars saved for something else!

xiaoman1 

That's the right attitude....more to be found out there....
Best, Ben

Lattz

If something, that is for sure....
Remember the thread 2 years ago about the painful misses, which was born right about the time you missed out on the Deus Ex Machina?

Spaghetti Legs 

Maybe true, but if you look closely, the OP example doesn’t have the features of the later posted pics and is better quality. I think seller maybe overshot the mark bumping it to $1000 with a replacement fork.

Yelbom15

$699 for this seems a little more reasonable. Any takers?

Lattz

Are you on the way to pick it?

roadcrankr

After your first debacle, try not to get overzealous with another Cinelli search.
This one seems more suited to the $300 price tag! It's rife with issues.
~ Vintage 1982 Cinelli Supercorsa Columbus Frame & Fork 57 x 56cm To Restore ~ | eBay
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