New old Peugeot. HELP! What model and year?
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New old Peugeot. HELP! What model and year?
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I got this bicycle from my neighbor here at the Garage. I believe it's a 1972 PX10. Im not sure. This is my first Peugeot! Looks like its in great shape one I polish the crud off of it. Please check it out and let me know what YOU think! Dealer Sticker is Roberts Cycle. I have never been there but when I went to go work for Wisconsin cycle supply they were on my account list but they were out of business. Thanks JJ>








I got this bicycle from my neighbor here at the Garage. I believe it's a 1972 PX10. Im not sure. This is my first Peugeot! Looks like its in great shape one I polish the crud off of it. Please check it out and let me know what YOU think! Dealer Sticker is Roberts Cycle. I have never been there but when I went to go work for Wisconsin cycle supply they were on my account list but they were out of business. Thanks JJ>









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Awesome! I hope it’s your size. Those could be the original tires and that bike was ridden very little.
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Great find, and I think your guess is correct. Have to say, it looks like there was either a kickstand on it or possibly it was on a bottom bracket stand for a looong time. Enjoy!
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not only a 1972 PX10 but an early 1972 PX10 - '72 one model year where there are identifiable early and late
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not only a 1972 PX10 but an early 1972 PX10 - '72 one model year where there are identifiable early and late
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@juvela, what are the distinctions? Is it the lugs?
I'll take a guess that maybe the fork crown has something to do with it.... this one looks different to my '72.....
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Too bad some idiot put a kickstand on it at some point.
Very nice machine. Interesting that everything is original, including the 52-45/14-21 gearing and, of course, the tires.
At Bikecology we ended up with a drawerful of 14-21 freewheels, because almost every PA/PR/PX-10 buyer opted for a 14-26 or 14-28 instead.
Very nice machine. Interesting that everything is original, including the 52-45/14-21 gearing and, of course, the tires.

At Bikecology we ended up with a drawerful of 14-21 freewheels, because almost every PA/PR/PX-10 buyer opted for a 14-26 or 14-28 instead.
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@juvela, what are the distinctions? Is it the lugs?
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Ets Verot-Perrin launched the model 93 in 1967
from the outset there were failures in the form of radial cracks at the pedal hole
in fairness, many of these were likely due to the trauma caused by crashes
finally, after five years they elected to do something about it and reinforced the pedal hole area with additional material at the crankarm's distal end
the change was made during 1972 so there are some PX machines which received the revised set and some which received the original version
this image employed by VB to illustrate the model 93 shows both the early and late type arms
the drive side arm in the picture is the early type and the non-drive side arm is the later type

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Wow guys,
Thanks for all the input! IM looking forward to totally taking this apart, cleaning and polishing it as well as lacing the wheels with new stainless spokes.
One more question. Did the original have safety levers??
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Thanks for all the input! IM looking forward to totally taking this apart, cleaning and polishing it as well as lacing the wheels with new stainless spokes.
One more question. Did the original have safety levers??
JJ
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Very nice find and great neighbor! I have a '69, in worse shape than yours! Great riding machine. Get some new tubular tire and repack those bearings and enjoy that fabulous ride for yourself.
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you gotta be kiddin'
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and it didn't have a dork disc either
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86 the dork disk...noted
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Ets Verot-Perrin launched the model 93 in 1967
from the outset there were failures in the form of radial cracks at the pedal hole
in fairness, many of these were likely due to the trauma caused by crashes
finally, after five years they elected to do something about it and reinforced the pedal hole area with additional material at the crankarm's distal end
the change was made during 1972 so there are some PX machines which received the revised set and some which received the original version
this image employed by VB to illustrate the model 93 shows both the early and late type arms
the drive side arm in the picture is the early type and the non-drive side arm is the later type
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Ets Verot-Perrin launched the model 93 in 1967
from the outset there were failures in the form of radial cracks at the pedal hole
in fairness, many of these were likely due to the trauma caused by crashes
finally, after five years they elected to do something about it and reinforced the pedal hole area with additional material at the crankarm's distal end
the change was made during 1972 so there are some PX machines which received the revised set and some which received the original version
this image employed by VB to illustrate the model 93 shows both the early and late type arms
the drive side arm in the picture is the early type and the non-drive side arm is the later type
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Now, how about that fork crown..?
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jjhabbs : I believe the surprise at the question on safety levers is that the PX10 was essentially a top of the line racing bike, so safety levers, a kickstand and a dork disk would be entirely out of place. You have a lovely bike there!
juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....
juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....
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jjhabbs : I believe the surprise at the question on safety levers is that the PX10 was essentially a top of the line racing bike, so safety levers, a kickstand and a dork disk would be entirely out of place. You have a lovely bike there!
juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....
juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....

would not be surprised...
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Well, it's definitely not unheard of for a PX-10 to have been fitted with 'safety' levers by the shop that originally sold the bike... At least the '72 I have had had them added to the Mafacs. It's also my understanding that it wasn't uncommon for shops to swap out the Monthlery/Lux Comp sew-up wheelset for a clincher set (cheaper Rigida steel rims, Normandy Sport hubs.....) at a customer's request. Again, such was the case with the PX-10 I have..... plus an insanely heavy dork-disk!
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juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....
juvela : Interesting regarding the earlier/later crankset, but I wonder: my experience with italian motorcycles says that they often found boxes of older components during their many supplier interruptions and you can often find older components showing up years later....is that not possible with Peugeot bicycles? Could an older crank have been pulled from a box in the storeroom and used on a later bike? Peugeot appears financially far more stable than my favorite italian motorcycle brand Ducati, who were (and likely still are) one step away from bankruptcy at any given time, but they didn't care - they just made great motorcycles.....
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rustystrings61 : I suspect you are correct; its just I have learned through my other hobby (old motorcycles) that even the factory specs can often be misleading - components were grabbed from wherever if a finished product was waiting....but your logic (and the fact this is a top of the line model) suggests using old parts was not the case here.
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Well, it's definitely not unheard of for a PX-10 to have been fitted with 'safety' levers by the shop that originally sold the bike... At least the '72 I have had had them added to the Mafacs. It's also my understanding that it wasn't uncommon for shops to swap out the Monthlery/Lux Comp sew-up wheelset for a clincher set (cheaper Rigida steel rims, Normandy Sport hubs.....) at a customer's request. Again, such was the case with the PX-10 I have..... plus an insanely heavy dork-disk!
there were two U.S. makers of adaptor kits to fit extension levers to MAFAC
both located in California -
ACS (American Cycle Systems)
Bicycle Research Products

these were frequently mounted to cycles of French origin during the "bike boom" by retail cycle shops
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