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Old 12-16-22, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by grant40 View Post
they were put there by the manufacturer
check with Titleist
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Old 12-16-22, 06:52 PM
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Old 12-16-22, 07:19 PM
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Through some research, I was able to find a rendering of said bike(just pretend it's blue and white)

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Old 12-16-22, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
kooky kooky looks just like that.
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Old 12-16-22, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger M View Post
Through some research, I was able to find a rendering of said bike(just pretend it's blue and white)








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Old 12-16-22, 07:34 PM
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I knew I should have taken the blue pill.
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Old 12-16-22, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
What specific bike is this?
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Old 12-16-22, 07:36 PM
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If you ever find out anything solid, here's a pair of pedals to match:



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Old 12-16-22, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
If you ever find out anything solid, here's a pair of pedals to match:



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Old 12-16-22, 07:46 PM
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That would be the Kmart All-Pro Fuzzy Zoeller 18-hole Masters Classic Special Pro Tour Grand Prix Deluxe Sport.
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Old 12-16-22, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
also dimples on the top


pic of whole bike
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Old 12-16-22, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
no, that's just a pic of the top of the bottom bracket and one of the crank arms
I meant get a pic of the whole bike
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Originally Posted by grant40 View Post
I have a description
What is the vintage blue and white road racing bike with the nervex lugs and the little golf ball dimples all over the bottom bracket shell?
Wow.
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Old 12-16-22, 08:28 PM
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What is this bike?

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Old 12-16-22, 08:45 PM
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It's the elusive Titleist bicycle. Golf ball dimples for aero performance.

I honestly have no idea. Some of the experts here may know but if you strike out with this single pic then additional pics of the lugs (seat cluster, head tube, fork crown) and dropouts could provide help. Any idea what the serial number is? I can't really make it out. S/Ns sometimes help too.
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Old 12-16-22, 09:20 PM
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Is that a bicycle or a portable radiator?

Like tricky, I have no clue - although...what's the diameter of the downtube? The clamp on the cable stop looks like it may have been intended for a slightly larger tube - which has me wondering it it has metric-sized tubing.
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Old 12-16-22, 10:07 PM
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Kudos to grant40 and hazetguy! this is interesting.
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Old 12-16-22, 10:17 PM
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My friend sent me all the pictures


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Old 12-16-22, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by grant40 View Post
My friend sent me all the pictures

Those don't look like OEM perforations, and it doesn't look like original paint either. The key to this puzzle lies elsewhere.
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Old 12-16-22, 10:35 PM
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Some dood built his own frame - probably.

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Old 12-16-22, 11:15 PM
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weird, that's what that is: never seen anything like that done on any BB shell before, but there IS a serial number, just too filled in (with re-paint) and too fuzzy a pic to read it...but kind of unlikely to be a home-brew frame with so many digits.
The also-too-fuzzy pic of the headlugs looks like those MIGHT be Japanese lugs that look "inspired" by the Prugnat type 62D but then again they might be genuine Prugnats (need a sharper pic).
Strange that this has zero braze-ons, not even shifter bosses, but forkcrown looks to be from a more recent vintage (recessed brakebolt? maybe: cannot tell)
Please ask "friend" to go back and take more, and better, pix.
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Old 12-17-22, 01:42 AM
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Key question: Will the bike shop let your friend touch this one, or is it subject to The Rollfast Do Not Touch Or We Call The Police Requirements?

Jokes aside, the SN suggests that this may not be all that custom - someone might have just played sillium drillium with the bottom bracket before the paint job. Granted, the shotback stays and Prugnat lugs set it apart from the crowd, but can a production frame really be put out of contention with this little to go on?

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Old 12-17-22, 05:40 AM
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Serial mistery

Hello there, my name is Levi, I'm from the philippines, I just bought a 2nd hand mixte which I am currently getting repainted, when the paint was stripped off, we saw a 4 digit serial number with and upside down PDS letters that is located a half inch off from the numbers.. I am on a journey in finding out what the brand of the frame is through small clues, at first I looked at mixte bikes with the same detail design which I found similar on a Maruishi and Lotus challenger xs, on my research, Lotus was a brand that hired maruishi or should I say collaborated to be one of their producers..
although none of the patterns of serial numbers of Maruishi and Lotus' match a PDS (3 letter) and 4 digit numbers..
1 more clue is that the frame has BOCAMA Lugs which from other articles or forums were made in france and used for classic italian frames from the late 70's and early 80's..

the japanese (maruishi) design and origin of the lugs does not match at all..

I found this one thread on a forum where someone mentioned a Holdsworth mixte with a serial number PDS 7272, I went on to check for holdsworth serial numbers and I found a forum where some Holdsworth owners are recording data of Holdsworth bikes that are still out there by submitting the serial number.. it is stated there that a 4 digit number refers to frames that were customized built in the 70's but non of the serial numbers have letters on them.. and I sent them a photo of my serial number to verify if the frame that I have could actually be a Holdsworth, some one aswered the day after and confirmed that it was not..

I also posted the photo of the serial number of my frame in a classic japanese bike group, one commented that accourding to the threading of the frame, he believes it to be of french made..



So far my only clues are:

1. PDS 1654
2. Bocama lugs
3. French threading
4. Maruishi/Lotus challenger xs mixte design
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Old 12-17-22, 07:31 AM
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hazetguy 's BB is full-on Kosher. grant40 's frameset is just celebrating the fifth and seventh days of Hanukkah.

Do these clues point to a rare Israel built frameset?
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Old 12-17-22, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
hazetguy 's BB is full-on Kosher. grant40 's frameset is just celebrating the fifth and seventh days of Hanukkah.

Do these clues point to a rare Israel built frameset?
Nope, in many cases a six-pointed star is just another star with nothing to do with David, Judaism or Israel. I actually have antique Christmas ornaments with such stars and am reasonably sure there was no confusion between those two "Wintertime Holidays" when these were made (in Germany as well as the USA).
We have seen the same star as a stamp on certain Schwinn frames (probably was one of several builder's marks) plus similar as a Police registration/license marking for the city of Berkeley, Calif. They don't stamp them anymore but did as late as the 1970s. Almost forgot: the many, many six-pointed stars used on many models of the Malvern Star frames from Australia...more than on the flag!
But this is the first time I have seen a BB shell (socket) with a six-pointed star piercing: the shell also has something on the main body which might indicate the brand but can't make it out not the right size for "CINELLI" is it?
Can @hazetguy give us an ID of that red shell?

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