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weird, that's what that is: never seen anything like that done on any BB shell before, but there IS a serial number, just too filled in (with re-paint) and too fuzzy a pic to read it...but kind of unlikely to be a home-brew frame with so many digits.
The also-too-fuzzy pic of the headlugs looks like those MIGHT be Japanese lugs that look "inspired" by the Prugnat type 62D but then again they might be genuine Prugnats (need a sharper pic).
Strange that this has zero braze-ons, not even shifter bosses, but forkcrown looks to be from a more recent vintage (recessed brakebolt? maybe: cannot tell)
Please ask "friend" to go back and take more, and better, pix.
The also-too-fuzzy pic of the headlugs looks like those MIGHT be Japanese lugs that look "inspired" by the Prugnat type 62D but then again they might be genuine Prugnats (need a sharper pic).
Strange that this has zero braze-ons, not even shifter bosses, but forkcrown looks to be from a more recent vintage (recessed brakebolt? maybe: cannot tell)
Please ask "friend" to go back and take more, and better, pix.

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This thread is exactly why I come to BF. No disrespect to OP, but I think I'll legit be a little sad once the answer on the bike is found.
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I would guess factory holes in that BB. It would be nearly impossible to do such a job on a drill press on that rounded surface. A more skilled machinist with fancier equipment could,, but why bother?
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Well. since this thread has pretty much derailed already......
My folks had a '68 Ford "Torino" Squire station wagon when I was in high school. It had wood grain sides, chrome roof rack, hubcaps, whitewalls (studded snow tires in the Winter) and JC Whitney fog lamps. Vey uncool......... I hated that car with a passion and always felt like I'd been peed on a little when I drove it, now I understand why. Not the actual "pee wagon" but one just like it sans the fog lamps:

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Does have Campagnolo dropouts and I did get a serial number but I forgot it already. I will update with it when I go back tomorrow.
Also the seat post clamp looks exactly like this.
Also the seat post clamp looks exactly like this.

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I'm sure a serial number could be a big step forward in solving the mystery...
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Well. since this thread has pretty much derailed already......
My folks had a '68 Ford "Torino" Squire station wagon when I was in high school. It had wood grain sides, chrome roof rack, hubcaps, whitewalls (studded snow tires in the Winter) and JC Whitney fog lamps. Vey uncool......... I hated that car with a passion and always felt like I'd been peed on a little when I drove it, now I understand why. Not the actual "pee wagon" but one just like it sans the fog lamps:

My folks had a '68 Ford "Torino" Squire station wagon when I was in high school. It had wood grain sides, chrome roof rack, hubcaps, whitewalls (studded snow tires in the Winter) and JC Whitney fog lamps. Vey uncool......... I hated that car with a passion and always felt like I'd been peed on a little when I drove it, now I understand why. Not the actual "pee wagon" but one just like it sans the fog lamps:

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This is the first time I've ever heard that, and no amount of searching online seems to correlate it. Is this specific to a certain regional Spanish dialect? Do tell.
The '68 predated Ford's swapover to the GM/Saganaw power steering box in '72, but just be glad you didn't have to deal with a Chrysler PS box. Those things give new meaning to overboosted, plus they feel 200k-sloppy at 20k.
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I first heard it in Puerto Rico, but other friends had either heard it before or understood the joke right away.
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The seat post clamp is an exact match and the lugs on the red bike are made by the same brand (Prugnat), but different style. The red bike is a J. W. Moore.
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The problem is that the red bike has Built-in bosses for the cables and the shifters. The blue and white bike does not have any types of bosses. Also the lugs are a different style on both bikes but they are both made by Prugnat.
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When I first got my license the folks had a '60 Impala 4 Dr. with a 348 4 bbl. and dual glass packs, even though it was a 4 Dr. it was still kinda cool. They traded it in on the Torino which when they told me we were getting a Torino I was super excited then I cone home from school to see THAT sitting in the driveway. talk about a disappointment! Here's the old Impala....... it had load levelers on the back which jacked it up a little so it had that going for it LOL.

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in relation to the torino informal meaning I understood chevy had problems selling the Nova (No Va) in spanish speaking countries.
and in keeping with total derailement the worlds worst car was a ford mustang II Steering.....vague at it's best, brakes, you look at them you are locked and skidding, binary on/off and clutch needed 2 men and large animal to push.
only car I every drove below the speed limit on hiway 17 to santa cruz
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and in keeping with total derailement the worlds worst car was a ford mustang II Steering.....vague at it's best, brakes, you look at them you are locked and skidding, binary on/off and clutch needed 2 men and large animal to push.
only car I every drove below the speed limit on hiway 17 to santa cruz
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thanks for that "fastback seat cluster" review thread, Seypat. Shame that so many pix have vanished but many were because of Photobucket going belly-up.
I don't see one that matches the "J.W. Moore" example, exactly nor do i know anything about J.W. so please fill us in.
Is that detail of the steel bit a "chain stay hanger"?
I remember something like that being sold as an after-market accessory, but don't see any pic of the blue frame that shows that in any location.
I don't see one that matches the "J.W. Moore" example, exactly nor do i know anything about J.W. so please fill us in.
Is that detail of the steel bit a "chain stay hanger"?
I remember something like that being sold as an after-market accessory, but don't see any pic of the blue frame that shows that in any location.