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Old 12-17-22, 02:54 PM
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Raleigh 20, non folder....

Going to pick one up Monday. 3 speed and I think with the taller skinnier wheels. I have been jonesing for a minivelo but this might do the trick. Aw hubs and all original pretty much. Pics to come and it's plenty rough. Any advice is welcome.
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That looks way better than the one I'm getting!
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Morphed into the Shopper I believe. The Twenty was a better build.
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Originally Posted by clubman
Morphed into the Shopper I believe. The Twenty was a better build.
I'm guessing blondes are very impressed by these bikes.
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Already considering a wheel build. If 451 rims they are probably 28 spoke?
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This is the best I got right now. A full 50 bucks worth.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I'm guessing blondes are very impressed by these bikes.
I'm blond...err grey blond. And impressionable!
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in planning your build/alterations one thing to be aware of on these is that the bottom bracket shell is seventy-six millimeter in width


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in planning your build/alterations one thing to be aware of on these is that the bottom bracket shell is seventy-six millimeter in width


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I was aware but ty!
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The non-folders were UK only, IIRC. Probably explains the rims too.

Great catch, enjoy it - post more pics. Seems as if every time you think you know the colors these came in, yet another factory color shows up.

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They were sold in Canada so may have jumped the border.
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Raleigh Twenty owner here. Good luck, have fun. Solid ride. If your wrenches don't fit it is probably British Whitworth size. I ordered a 17/32(?) for the lug nuts.Thread "Love of Three speeds" may be of some help.
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Originally Posted by mirfi
Raleigh Twenty owner here. Good luck, have fun. Solid ride. If your wrenches don't fit it is probably British Whitworth size. I ordered a 17/32(?) for the lug nuts.Thread "Love of Three speeds" may be of some help.
I've played a bunch with regular size three speeds and love aw hubs but the 20 is a first for me. Pretty excited about the 451 wheel size. I have a decent pair of 20x 1 3/8 tires and look forward to building wheels for it.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I've played a bunch with regular size three speeds and love aw hubs but the 20 is a first for me. Pretty excited about the 451 wheel size. I have a decent pair of 20x 1 3/8 tires and look forward to building wheels for it.
When I decided to rebuild my R20 wheels with aluminum rims I stuck with the 451 sized as well. Tires can be tricky to source unless you are willing to order.

Eager to watch your progress unfold!
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Originally Posted by cudak888
The non-folders were UK only, IIRC. Probably explains the rims too.

Great catch, enjoy it - post more pics. Seems as if every time you think you know the colors these came in, yet another factory color shows up.

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Like this colour
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Like this colour
I think that one is in the UK catalogs. Don't remember offhand, but the pink Shoppers are all over the Raleigh Twenty FB group from the UK members.

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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
When I decided to rebuild my R20 wheels with aluminum rims I stuck with the 451 sized as well. Tires can be tricky to source unless you are willing to order.

Eager to watch your progress unfold!
What rims do you recommend, I was thinking of going with cr18s once I confirm the spoke count.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
What rims do you recommend, I was thinking of going with cr18s once I confirm the spoke count.
The CR18
are the ones I chose. Not many available during the Covid problem s with supply. I went with the black rims, silver brake wall.

just so no confusion, I have a folder. My friends shopper is the purple one.
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
The CR18
are the ones I chose. Not many available during the Covid problem s with supply. I went with the black rims, silver brake wall.

just so no confusion, I have a folder. My friends shopper is the purple one.
Not much available at all right now. I have a pair of nice 451 wheels but they are 32 hole or I would replace one for the rear. I do have a 36 hole aw I could use and just buy 36 hole rims but I'd like to use the original hub.
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I guess I got lucky with the available rims matching the 79 hubs.

Alert: with CR18 it is not a plug an play switch. The spoke lengths donít match.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I'm guessing blondes are very impressed by these bikes.
I was wondering what trick you were referring to, until Neal cleared that up.
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Picked it up today and the spoke counts are 40 on the hub and 32 in front. Just like a Raleigh sport. I guess I'll be using a 36 hole hub to build the new wheel in back and am free to use a 32 hole Dyno hub in front. The bike is rough but not as bad as it could have been. Love the built in kick stand.


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I'm liking that color.

The progressive dies used to create those lap joints used in lieu of lugs must have been a bit of tool-making genius. I haven't paid much attention to Twenties and hadn't noticed that detail before. Very cool.
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Closer to my size....

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