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Old 02-04-24, 11:31 PM
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I'm on the wrong part of the bell curve as a collector, a rider, and a photographer compared to most folks in the C&V forum. I'm probably on the right part of the bell curve as to age in this forum, but only by a couple of years.

I have a deep philosophical hatred for the concept of favorites - it's a question you ask a four-year old because you can't have an adult conversation. But I finally clicked on this thread and saw that Adventure Man brought the discussion into the adult realm by framing it in terms of thinning the herd as we all get older, so here I go.

Most comfortable is probably a 1979 Trek 710 that I got from the co-op. It has a lot of patina but I love that metallic dark blue so I stripped it, scrubbed off the rust, and clear coated it, then mostly put the parts back on it that the original owner had donated it with. I think I reduced the chain ring size a little because I'm a wimp. I also have a 1982 710 in better shape. It's nice but not quite the same as the older one.



The one I get the most compliments on is kind of a joke build of an awesome late 1980s Montagner racing bike frame. I'm not a racer so I built it with stem shifters and turkey levers for city riding. Bike people and non-bike people alike say "nice bike" when I ride this. Well, OK, bike people say "nice frame."



Last one to get sold, even though I don't ride it as much as some others, is probably the 1983 Paramount Elite. This is the only one that I would consider putting in a show for collectors to look at.



I just did a 650b conversion on my 1982 Claud Butler Dalesman, but I don't have a picture of the build yet. I have several older bikes but they're not high end and probably do not make it into the low single digit number of bikes I would keep if I had to move into a senior apartment.

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I'm not sure the concept of "#1" makes complete sense - what are you going to ride if you need to touch up the paint or adjust something ?
So you can only have a #1 if there's an understudy, which also deserves some of the credit.

In 1983 I bought a Holdsworth Avanti brand new (1982 - only year it was 531), 38 years later I got a new (1982) one.
Last year it got moved to best supporting actor after I finally found a 'fishtail lug' Holdsworth Cyclone (1961).
If I did bicycle shows this is the one I would enter.


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Originally Posted by albrt
I'm on the wrong part of the bell curve as a collector, a rider, and a photographer compared to most folks in the C&V forum. I'm probably on the right part of the bell curve as to age in this forum, but only by a couple of years.

I have a deep philosophical hatred for the concept of favorites - it's a question you ask a four-year old because you can't have an adult conversation. But I finally clicked on this thread and saw that Adventure Man brought the discussion into the adult realm by framing it in terms of thinning the herd as we all get older, so here I go.

Most comfortable is probably a 1979 Trek 710 that I got from the co-op. It has a lot of patina but I love that metallic dark blue so I stripped it, scrubbed off the rust, and clear coated it, then mostly put the parts back on it that the original owner had donated it with. I think I reduced the chain ring size a little because I'm a wimp. I also have a 1982 710 in better shape. It's nice but not quite the same as the older one.



The one I get the most compliments on is kind of a joke build of an awesome late 1980s Montagner racing bike frame. I'm not a racer so I built it with stem shifters and turkey levers for city riding. Bike people and non-bike people alike say "nice bike" when I ride this. Well, OK, bike people say "nice frame."



Last one to get sold, even though I don't ride it as much as some others, is probably the 1983 Paramount Elite. This is the only one that I would consider putting in a show for collectors to look at.



I just did a 650b conversion on my 1982 Claud Butler Dalesman, but I don't have a picture of the build yet. I have several older bikes but they're not high end and probably do not make it into the low single digit number of bikes I would keep if I had to move into a senior apartment.
I don't think we can be on the wrong side of the bell curve, you"re doing just fine although you could step up your game a bit.

I was on a mission when I jumped back in 15 or so years ago so now I have many that I may never be able to let go.

Agree on the favorite question part but so many bikes, so many criteria, they all have their place or seem to.

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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I might be a bit in denial about which bike is my number 1. The bike I ride most often is my Specialized Sequoia. It's a great bike -- comfortable, versatile, reliable, and fits just the way I want it to. The problem is, it's not sexy. I don't want it to be my number 1 bike.



In fact, last year the Sequoia wasn't the bike I rode most often. That's probably at least in part because of the denial. When I'm picking a bike, I sometimes pass over the Sequoia because I want to ride something more beautiful. I've got a lot of bikes in the stable, so none of them get a lot of miles in any given year. Last year I took my 1974 Masi on a credit card tour, and that trip alone put it past most of my other bikes in mileage, and as a result it was far and away my most ridden bike in 2022.



The Masi is undeniably worthy of being my number one. It looks great. It rides great. It has a prestigious reputation. I like it a lot. But it's still not the bike I'm most infatuated with. Until recently, the bike I was most infatuated with was my Stella SX-76.



That one is dead sexy and checks any other box I'd want to put on my list. It's maybe not as versatile as the Sequoia, but for most of my riding I don't really need versatility, and I have other bikes with specialized purposes like gravel riding or touring when I want to do that. So the Stella was my number one until late last fall when I stumbled across this Pinarello Super Record Special.



It was a Pinarello Gran Turismo in this same dazzling, rich, metallic red color that kicked off my addiction to C&V bikes about seven years ago, but it was too small for me. Ever since I had been looking for another bike that had this look. The new Pinarello Super Record Special fit the bill, and it has a few more chrome accents, which I love. It also feels just a bit more lively than the Stella. My infatuation for this bike may also be surpassed some day, but right now I'd say that the Pinarello is my number one.
It's been less than a year since I posted the above, and in spite of four options in my original post, a new bike has taken the top spot, at least in terms of how often I'm picking it. My most ridden bike of 2023, and the one I am currently most infatuated with, is my 1971 Mercian Vincitore.



Apart from anything else, it's becoming clear that my number one bike has a 3x9/10 Campagnolo gruppo, Crank Bros pedals, a Soma Highway One bar, a Specialized Phenom saddle, DT Swiss R460 rims, and tires with cream or tan sidewalls.
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Old 02-05-24, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by albrt
I have a deep philosophical hatred for the concept of favorites - it's a question you ask a four-year old because you can't have an adult conversation. But I finally clicked on this thread and saw that Adventure Man brought the discussion into the adult realm by framing it in terms of thinning the herd as we all get older, so here I go.
Whew!


I forgot about this thread. To be frank, you are not wrong. It sort of reminds me of that guy in the Lego movie, where he just likes everything that everyone else does - a complete lack of originality. You can sort of make the same argument here. What's the point of asking what other people like? Just to like it too?..because someone else does? What's even worse, it is even more apparent in other threads that I have started, like the 'votes are in: culmination of favorite rides of BF members' or some nonsense like that, or even 'the top 10 quintessential C&V bikes'. I don't know why, but a part of me was, and still is, fascinated with why some items (and in this case, bicycles) have a perception of value/quality over others...maybe its FOMO (fear of missing out) as in, 'Oooh, everyone else says its great, so it must be! I must get it and try it for myself!' I'd like to think I've grown since then. Maybe I've just regressed!

Well, God is not without a sense of humor, and it turns out that my favorite (to use that horrible word) bike is a complete steaming garbage pile, a waste of steel better served as gutter flashing (the Le Grande). And while it actually does ride pretty nice compared to a lot of bikes I've ridden, that has very little to do with why it's my favorite. I love parody, and find humor in strange places. I absolutely love seeing the double takes that happen when I show up to a respectable vintage gathering and single handedly take the whole thing down a couple of notches. I love seeing the surprise, the disdain, the shock, the admiration, all of it. Its a really fun thing to bring out into the light, because everyone's got an opinion, and its fun hearing what people think, especially those who seemingly don't approve.

So, while this thread is complete vanity, at least it as become a good excuse to look at pretty bikes
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Originally Posted by repechage
Tough. Very tough. Cannot isolate just one
I'm in this camp also.

I have quite a few C&V bikes, 1 Newish road bike, plus several Resto-mods. I really love each and every one or I wouldn't have them. But We're in Florida for the Winter. Could only bring 3 bikes due to all our luggage plus a dog & cat. Two were newly acquired last July, third is a vintage mountain bike. I had planned to bring a mountain bike + my Torelli and had pieced together a 2nd MotobecaneGrand Jubile' (so I could keep 1 in Oregon + always have 1 in Florida).

But in July two "must have" C&V bikes popped up. A 1973 Record Atala and a 1984 Masi GC. I got them, but renovating our new downsized home left little ride time, so I brought them to Florida along with an early 90's Gary Fisher Montare. This trio get all my attention. So for now they're my #1 bikes. Will take some pics. (edit) Took some pics but hit a wall when my new computer(with windows 11) Suddenly refused to recognize any of my Canon cameras for downloads (G10, 5D, 7D), it was working fine since early December. Did these with my phone.

1984 Masi Gran Criterium: Has had a repaint from original white + Daytona 9 speed group. New Brooks Saddle + Tires + MKS pedals by me.

1973 Record Atala Original owner could no longer ride it. He repainted from original white/red. New Brooks Saddle + Tires + MKS Pedals by me.

1991? Gary Fisher Montare. New tires by me, in process of replacing straight bar with a V.O. Porteur bar.
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This was a fun thread! A year plus later my number one is still my Mercian and my P-13 has managed to steal the number two slot. It’s so well-mannered and a pleasure to ride. Kinda good-looking too.
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Joo can’t pick a favorite either. However, he really likes his Look Hinault 753!
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Whew!


I forgot about this thread. To be frank, you are not wrong. It sort of reminds me of that guy in the Lego movie, where he just likes everything that everyone else does - a complete lack of originality. You can sort of make the same argument here. What's the point of asking what other people like? Just to like it too?..because someone else does? What's even worse, it is even more apparent in other threads that I have started, like the 'votes are in: culmination of favorite rides of BF members' or some nonsense like that, or even 'the top 10 quintessential C&V bikes'. I don't know why, but a part of me was, and still is, fascinated with why some items (and in this case, bicycles) have a perception of value/quality over others...maybe its FOMO (fear of missing out) as in, 'Oooh, everyone else says its great, so it must be! I must get it and try it for myself!' I'd like to think I've grown since then. Maybe I've just regressed!

Well, God is not without a sense of humor, and it turns out that my favorite (to use that horrible word) bike is a complete steaming garbage pile, a waste of steel better served as gutter flashing (the Le Grande). And while it actually does ride pretty nice compared to a lot of bikes I've ridden, that has very little to do with why it's my favorite. I love parody, and find humor in strange places. I absolutely love seeing the double takes that happen when I show up to a respectable vintage gathering and single handedly take the whole thing down a couple of notches. I love seeing the surprise, the disdain, the shock, the admiration, all of it. Its a really fun thing to bring out into the light, because everyone's got an opinion, and its fun hearing what people think, especially those who seemingly don't approve.

So, while this thread is complete vanity, at least it as become a good excuse to look at pretty bikes
That "steaming garbage pile" has become one of my favorite bikes on this forum for exactly the reasons you describe. I love the sarcasm and "inside joke" behind its build.

I think if you did the reverse? Ie put the low end "steaming pile of garbage" components from the Le Grande onto a Confente? I don't think that would work in the same way, and would prob generate negative emotions, at least in me. I thought of this when I posted a bike for sale in the eBay / CraigsList finds - "Are you looking for one of these!?" Part II that has possibly one of the lowest end 3 piece crank ever made? And and Shimano Light Action rear derailleur. It shouldn't have bugged me, but I guess I am a snob??
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I have been putting in time on my Ochsner made of lowly steel from Columbus, but it is a nice ride and handles well. I have it junked up from the Horror Build, but it still is riding like I want it to feel. Maybe just my way of riding what I have that feels good.
Kind of like AMCO's mind set with his Huffiente. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by gomango
I'm down to a few bikes, mostly off-road.
Hell, I don’t even like to drive off road!
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The bike that rides so great and that I can just stare at for hours as I also find it so beautiful is my late 70s Ritchey Palo Alto Tandem…


…and then after owning for a while I learned of its background, having been owned originally by noted cycling scribe and all around cyclist, the late Owen Mulholland, its place in my stable only became more elevated…


Now if I could get Joe Breeze and Otis Guy help me get a same side drive system back on it like Owen had and as they had on their contemporaneous Ritchey tandem (the Anchor Steamer), it would be the cat’s meow…



Picture above is the Anchor Steamer as displayed at the Marin Museum of Bicycling…first time I saw my Ritchey it was hanging in about this same location and it was love at first sight.

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I am not sure if my Roberts Roughstuff is classed as vintage as it is 2008 but is a model made since the late 1980s or early 90s, I was after an all round expedition bike that would do anything and go anywhere, at the time I had a BMW GS motorcycle and wanted the bicycle equivalent and after looking at other options went with a full bespoke build from Roberts. After meeting some overland cyclists in Africa knew I wanted a Rohloff hub and off road touring experience told me I wanted front suspension which raised eyebrows in Croydon but the customer is always right, it has proved a good decision and is possibly the only Roughstuff they made with them fitted.
Disc brakes to prevent rim wear in the dirt and lots of high quality UK made components from Hope, USE, Middleburn and Brooks have proved durable over the 10,000 or so miles it has done so far a lot of that off road. The riding position is for comfort on a long day with a good view of the countryside which is far more important to me than going fast, although I have still done 100 miles in a day on it on gravel, at the time I had never heard of Geoff Apps and his Cleland Range Rider which is possibly the world's first bike built specifically for off road touring but it has a very similar riding position.
I could of had a Thorn Sterling which is very similar and as an off the peg cheaper but am glad I paid the extra for exactly what I wanted, I did pick up a Sterling frameset a couple of years ago and it has a couple of irritating things I do not like about it.

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Originally Posted by tjfastback66
You all have really beautiful bicycles and I do admire them greatly.
I got this one off of Craig's for $45 in some sorry state of neglect. But when it came around after a deep cleaning and restoration - the bicycle quickly became an instant favorite to me.
1981 Univega Specialissima - Great Touring Bike - Currently my "Go To" bike.It really is a very smooth riding comfortable ride - not harsh like a racing bike. True Blue Touring imho...
I love the cable housing color choice on this!
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Mid '80s off road touring bike. As I get older I have really come to appreciate the flat bar riding position for city rides.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Hell, I don’t even like to drive off road!
I sure do.
Can't wait to pick up the new Landcruiser 1958.
We have thousands of miles of gravel in northern Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Not to mention our summer jaunts to Montana, Idaho and Wyoming.
Gravel, fly fishing and taking pictures of wildlife is making me happy in retirement.
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In the Mid 1980's, three Cinelli Supercorsa frames came into my local bikeshop and all my size. My favourite was red, followed by a white frame then a blue frame (shown here). Really, I fell in love with all three. I pressed my nose up against the bikeshop window most nights, after hours and just admired them. One by one they left the shop. I found out later that the red frame was stolen during a store break-in. The other two went to their new owners.

A year passed and I never forgot the frames as I wanted one, any one so much but my financial position wouldn't even allow me to enter the store and actually touch one of the frames. Then, wow, the blue frame turned-up again in the store. The blue frame had passed through two owners but had never been built-up. It was now a little cheaper and I made-up my mind that it wasn't going to get away again. I bought it.

This was going to be my 'forever bike' and the components I chose to fit to it were my idea of perfection. Here it is:



I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to my future grave digger, "Sorry mate, but I just couldn't bare to be separated from my bike."

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In the Mid 1980's, three Cinelli Supercorsa frames came into my local bikeshop and all my size. My favourite was red, followed by a white frame then a blue frame (shown here). Really, I fell in love with all three. I pressed my nose up against the bikeshop window most nights, after hours and just admired them. One by one they left the shop. I found out later that the red frame was stolen during a store break-in. The other two went to their new owners.

A year passed and I never forgot the frames as I wanted one, any one so much but my financial position wouldn't even allow me to enter the store and actually touch one of the frames. Then, wow, the blue frame turned-up again in the store. The blue frame had passed through two owners but had never been built-up. It was now a little cheaper and I made-up my mind that it wasn't going to get away again. I bought it.

This was going to be my 'forever bike' and the components I chose to fit to it were my idea of perfection. Here it is:
Stunning vintage racing bicycle. There is a strong correlation between large flange 28h tubular wheels and fine bicycles. The last generation Super Record crank arms without fluting would be my choice too, distinctive and unusual.
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well for me it is my Peugeot Prestige for what concerns road bikes because it is with this bike that I started racing back in 1996 and it is currently being upgraded with Dura Ace 7800 components

For mountain bikes, I will stick with my Kona Kilaeua from 1997 which due to its very agressive geometry is real blast to ride and also lightweight

It is followed by my Scapin another great mountain bike with a less agressive geometry but still a very responsive and lightweight frame

With the new road bike projects and the last MTB project that will be build , things might change
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