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Old 01-18-23, 05:39 PM
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Campy Tool Kits in French?

I've got Italian and English thread kits. Just curious if Campy every made their kits in French threading. Any ideas?
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Old 01-18-23, 05:58 PM
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My kit came to me with all 3* sets of taps, and the matching pilots for the facer. Plus the reamer to go from French or English to Italian, and the 45 chamfer cutter for Mavic BBs! Oh and a Silva headset reamer/facer for OS headsets in addition to the Campy one for 1". Previous owner was a "completist" I guess.

* "All 3 doesn't include Swiss unfortunately. My Swiss tap is a Hozan, and isn't piloted, so pretty much only good for chasing and only when the existing threads are good enough to guide it straight.

The reamer may not be Campy, doesn't say Campy on it but it's a precision fit on the tap holders. I've used it a few times and it is godlike, makes a super nice bore for tapping.
The Mavic chamfer cutter is definitely not Campy, but also fit the Campy holder just right, so it's precisely piloted to the thread on the other side.

Seattle-area folks, talk to me if you need a BB tapped, faced etc. I can repair even totally munged threads to like new, I know some tricks. Shipping a frame to me probably isn't worth it though, unless you're really sure there's no one in your area code that can handle it.

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Old 01-18-23, 10:51 PM
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jiangshi and Bulgie, as usual, know what they're talking about, much more than I actually. I was going through an old framebuilder's tooling a week ago and came across all of the French threaded tooling for the Campy box kit. Not very common in this country.
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Old 01-19-23, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
My kit came to me with all 3* sets of taps, and the matching pilots for the facer. Plus the reamer to go from French or English to Italian, and the 45 chamfer cutter for Mavic BBs! Oh and a Silva headset reamer/facer for OS headsets in addition to the Campy one for 1". Previous owner was a "completist" I guess.

* "All 3 doesn't include Swiss unfortunately. My Swiss tap is a Hozan, and isn't piloted, so pretty much only good for chasing and only when the existing threads are good enough to guide it straight.

The reamer may not be Campy, doesn't say Campy on it but it's a precision fit on the tap holders. I've used it a few times and it is godlike, makes a super nice bore for tapping.
The Mavic chamfer cutter is definitely not Campy, but also fit the Campy holder just right, so it's precisely piloted to the thread on the other side.

Seattle-area folks, talk to me if you need a BB tapped, faced etc. I can repair even totally munged threads to like new, I know some tricks. Shipping a frame to me probably isn't worth it though, unless you're really sure there's no one in your area code that can handle it.

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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Man, I really need to get up there for a visit!
Yeah come any time. My setup is "ample" in some ways like the Campy toolkit, and rudimentary in some others. Like most of the shop being outdoors in my driveway under an awning. Not much of an atelier indoors too small to put a tandem in the stand, and even a single has to be diagonal across the space or I can't move from one side of the bike to the other. The tour will be brief!

Maybe you can help me convince Laurie that the living room would be a great place for a milling machine.

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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
My kit came to me with all 3* sets of taps, and the matching pilots for the facer. Plus the reamer to go from French or English to Italian, and the 45 chamfer cutter for Mavic BBs! Oh and a Silva headset reamer/facer for OS headsets in addition to the Campy one for 1". Previous owner was a "completist" I guess.

* "All 3 doesn't include Swiss unfortunately. My Swiss tap is a Hozan, and isn't piloted, so pretty much only good for chasing and only when the existing threads are good enough to guide it straight.
I've never seen a Campagnolo Swiss thread tap, and the catalogs aren't clear whether they were an option; they just say "specify thread" when ordering. I did pick up a VAR Swiss thread tap when Wayne Bingham was blowing them out from his Mel Pinto acquisition several years ago, and have piloted VAR tap handles to use them. It's a shame that the shaft on the VAR tap handles isn't compatible with Campagnolo, otherwise I wouldn't need the VAR tap handles.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
I was going through an old framebuilder's tooling a week ago and came across all of the French threaded tooling for the Campy box kit.
You tease! Is there a story there? What framebuilder?

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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
You tease! Is there a story there? What framebuilder?

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Unfortunately Hugh Enochs (Paradigm Bikes and Jevelot) is not doing well. I am part of a group effort to help his wife clear out decades of accumulated bike stuff. That's why I'm listing so much eclectic stuff in the "Classic and Vintage Sales" forum. I'll put some of the off-topic stuff on ebay. All the framebuilding stuff except the milling machine and TIG welder are already gone.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
Unfortunately Hugh Enochs (Paradigm Bikes and Jevelot) is not doing well. I am part of a group effort to help his wife clear out decades of accumulated bike stuff. That's why I'm listing so much eclectic stuff in the "Classic and Vintage Sales" forum. I'll put some of the off-topic stuff on ebay. All the framebuilding stuff except the milling machine and TIG welder are already gone.
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Since no one else did it:
Kits d'outils Campy
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
Maybe you can help me convince Laurie that the living room would be a great place for a milling machine.
It's not a milling machine, it's a coffee table.
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There is something very gratifying about the existence of French threaded Campy tool kits in the US all these years later…
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