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Old 03-19-23, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Hillbilly drop bolt:
OOooo... I like this idea.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
OOooo... I like this idea.
"BuT tHaT's NoT cAmPaGnOlO!"

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Re pedal as dropper plate…
I was thinking that you might this side of the pedal shaped object for the plate….




and this is why this pedal shaped object is good for little else


Even steel Campy does not stand up to the abrasive power of asphalt when the weight of a pickup is applied from above. Btw, the rider walked away and rode the next day.
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I like Johns idea above.

To keep it campy, he could use a carcass from a seatpost.
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It really looks like it might be easiest to cut off the brake bridge and weld it back on an inch lower.
It'll look cleaner with the bridge somewhat hidden behind the caliper.

If you prepped the surfaces and fashioned a fixture bracket beforehand, an experienced welder could do this in five minutes, then the burnt area gets new paint.

This doesn't solve the problem in front, where I would use the Sheldon Brown "parallel plates" drop-down mount with a sleeve between the two small plates.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Hillbilly drop bolt:
What is that fabbed from - conduit, seatpost, or some other unlucky cylindrical steel object? I may have need to create something like that for a unknown future project.
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Originally Posted by RCMoeur
What is that fabbed from - conduit, seatpost, or some other unlucky cylindrical steel object? I may have need to create something like that for a unknown future project.
Electrical conduit.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Electrical conduit.
Conduit being kinda thin-walled, it looks like the bridge needed to have a lot of spacers fitted so as to maintain the full inside-diameter spacing of the big conduit at it's contact points.

And the brake stud might need to be the longer "front" style, to bridge across that diameter, with an internal sleeve to support the tightening compression.

Looks like a quite-chunky addition, but possibly made "aesthetic" with careful scupting and paint(?).
Perhaps also, a smaller diameter of possibly thicker-walled steel tubing might look nicer in this application(?) and make the caliper stud length less of an issue.

With so many joinings going on, I would initially leave the bolts/nuts on the loose side, then "pre-load" the assembly under considerable actual braking force while giving the nuts a final tightening.
This might prevent slippage in use on the bike's maiden voyage where the pads might then contact the tire, and can be pulled off by just one person using all of one's bodily abilities together with perhaps an elastic band applying force to the lever whilst pulling the rear tire forward.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Spadoni
Re pedal as dropper plate…
I was thinking that you might this side of the pedal shaped object for the plate….




and this is why this pedal shaped object is good for little else


Even steel Campy does not stand up to the abrasive power of asphalt when the weight of a pickup is applied from above. Btw, the rider walked away and rode the next day.

Really glad to hear that the rider of that is okay!

I'm okay with non-Campy if it is home made or fabricated from scratch. Due to the weight (remember, we are starting with a barge) I'm hesitant to go steel any place I can go alloy or titanium. Obviously a titanium brake adapter makes little sense if alloy can do the same thing. Course the whole point of this build is to not make any sense whatsoever, so there's that. I do actually have some aluminum bracket stuff that I am going to try to use first for a fabricated brake adapter but if it turns out to be a huge fail I'll definitely consider other options.
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Originally Posted by dddd
It really looks like it might be easiest to cut off the brake bridge and weld it back on an inch lower.
It'll look cleaner with the bridge somewhat hidden behind the caliper.

If you prepped the surfaces and fashioned a fixture bracket beforehand, an experienced welder could do this in five minutes, then the burnt area gets new paint.

This doesn't solve the problem in front, where I would use the Sheldon Brown "parallel plates" drop-down mount with a sleeve between the two small plates.

I think we'll get something going that won't require a welder or cutting stuff off or any of that. I can weld, but I'm not great at it. Since we have the deadline and I've got some material, I'm going to give it a go and if it works it works, and if it doesn't, it won't be the first thing!

I need to fabricate:

1. Front brake thing
2. Rear brake thing
3. Shift clamp adapter thing
3.5. Shift cable clamp adapter thing
4. FD adapter thing
5. Rear derailleur hanger thing

Basically I just have a lot of things to make! But that is what makes this build fun. I'm lamenting the fact that homemade bracketry does not offend the senses quite as much as butchered Campy stuff, but we all have to make sacrifices.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
"BuT tHaT's NoT cAmPaGnOlO!"

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We will find an elegant, redneck solution to our brake bridge woes.
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Duct tape still a possibility???
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
yes Yes YES. Let the heretical flow through you. You can always up things by going electronic shifting. Campagnolo Record EPS??? Oh yes. Wallet? "OH NO."
That's the problem! I blew the whole budget on the bike already, nevermind the fact that even just every single single Campy screw and nut costs like half the bike!

Although I've got the second piece of junk Huffy in the garage right now.

I've thought about cutting it up to look at how these things are brazed and contruct, but I've been too tempted by the idea of putting on the current gen highest tier electronic groupset on it

If I win the lottery ya'll know what I will be doing!
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
Duct tape still a possibility???
How about a thousand little strips of these, all taped up together???

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I like the idea of using one of these without the strap. It is made of iron so it is fitting for the Huffy.

https://www.menards.com/main/electri...os=54&exp=true



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Hillbilly drop bolt:
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Ooooooh, look what I just found on this website!!!




https://www.velobitz.co.uk/handlebar...epro#gallery-1


Listen here to what it says!

"Add a touch of Campagnolo World Champion finesse..."

That's exactly what I'm trying to do! Like exactly! It's like they read my flippin' mind. Loving this.

Now. I don't know if you know what I'm thinking, buuuuuuuuuuuuut... the overall surface area of a bike...


Based on this post (thanks Landgolier for doing the work !!) a classic steel bicycle (size 58, pretty much exactly the Huffy) is nearly exactly 1 meter of surface area. 1 meter = 1550 square inches.

In the description, it says that each sticker is 114mm x 19mm, which of course 2166 sq mm, everyone knows that. So 2166sq mm = .002166 sq meters, which of course is 3.357 sq in.

So given that an average bike is 1550 square inches, and each one of these stickers equates to 3.357 sq inches, and there are two of them in each package, that means:

1550sq inches / (3.357 x 2) =

1550sq inches / 6.71 = 230.839

So, if I wanted to cover the whole bike frame in Campagnolo Super Record World Champion stickers, I would need about 231 sets of them. The price on the website is 2.50 pounds (weird British currency) so the conversion on this is =

1 pound (GPB) = $1.23

Therefore,

2.50 GPB = $3.07

So, given that we need 231 sets of these stickers, and the price equates to $3.07 today (shipping not included), it would cost us:



$709









$709!!!!!!!


Wow! That's even cheaper than a Joe Bell paintjob! I'm sold.
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I’m concerned that the most prohibitive cost will be that small bottle of Tulio’s urine you’ll need to officially christen this bike as Campy-worthy. Maybe someone should start a kickstarter campaign.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO

In the description, it says that each sticker is 114mm x 19mm, which of course 2166 sq mm, everyone knows that. So 2166sq mm = .002166 sq meters, which of course is 3.357 sq in.

So given that an average bike is 1550 square inches, and each one of these stickers equates to 3.357 sq inches, and there are two of them in each package, that means:

1550sq inches / (3.357 x 2) =

1550sq inches / 6.71 = 230.839

So, if I wanted to cover the whole bike frame in Campagnolo Super Record World Champion stickers, I would need about 231 sets of them. The price on the website is 2.50 pounds (weird British currency) so the conversion on this is =

1 pound (GPB) = $1.23

Therefore,

2.50 GPB = $3.07

So, given that we need 231 sets of these stickers, and the price equates to $3.07 today (shipping not included), it would cost us: $709
Ugh - MATH

This thread has now officially been ruined for me.

You're dead to me now, Dave.




























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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Ugh - MATH

This thread has now officially been ruined for me.

You're dead to me now, Dave.

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This thread is good at breaking people. You are in good company.

You know, I'm not very good at math myself. Numbers hurt my head...especially the numbers following a dollar sign and affiliated with Campagnolo items.


BTW I actually did order some of those stickers lol. They will look PERFECT sandwiching the 'Huffy 12 Speed' seat tube graphic. Lest we forget that Huffy was the winning steed for a World Champi...err, a local race Championship in the real wor...err, in a fake TV series.

STILL!

Lest we forget the Huffy's Championship Pedigree! It deserves those 'World Champion' colors!


Photographic evidence of the Le Grande's winning race pedigree. Pay no attention to the fact that these are all paid actors. It's about heart!

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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO

You know, I'm not very good at math myself. Numbers hurt my head...especially the numbers following a dollar sign and affiliated with Campagnolo items.
Yup - had to pop two Tylenol Sinus caps after trying to figger out WTF all those digits were trying to communicate to me. Think I'll go lie down for a couple hours.

And I lol'ed at that Campy prices comment

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Originally Posted by dddd
Conduit being kinda thin-walled, it looks like the bridge needed to have a lot of spacers fitted so as to maintain the full inside-diameter spacing of the big conduit at it's contact points.
Or just a short section of tube over the brake mounting bolt to reinforce the conduit.
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Youse guys are way over thinking the brake problems for dropping the caliper. A bit of aluminum bar stock and some drilling will give a drop bolt part. Even a bit of 6X1 tapping would make it quite functional with no extra weight. I am currently working on making a part for this issue. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
I am currently working on making a part for this issue. Smiles, MH

We're all waiting!

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Youse guys are way over thinking the brake problems for dropping the caliper.
Sure - but ain't that the point of this thread? I surely do think so

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