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Originally Posted by Hondo6
Did you actually just use the word "zooming" in the same sentence as "Huffy"?

"Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?"
Zooming to the landfill…?

Zooming off a cliff…?


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Originally Posted by RB1-luvr
I would mill a K in the stem at the end of JUN.
Yeah but that poor stem! The stem was the one nice part that came on the bike. It’s everything else we have to worry about
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Originally Posted by gbi
I'm a bit worried the Huffy frame may soon suffer an identity crisis, and what effect will that have on it's ride and handling?
I’ll be shocked if it’s ‘relaxed Italian race bike’ level

I’ll be surprised if it’s ‘better than stock’ level

I’ll expect at the very least it’s ‘well, better than a Raleigh’ caliber
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Originally Posted by stoneageyosh
As it has previously demonstrated a proclivity for the front wheel to veer off in a different direction than the rear it probably is schizophrenic to start with and has needed counseling since it came off the Huffy assembly line.
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My wife made an observation (criticism??) about me that this thread confirms I am not alone: "You talk about working on bikes WAY more than you actually work on bikes. And I think you like talking about it more than doing it."
This may be true! But the fact that I’m not sure is terrifying. I’ve easily spent 100-150hrs on the bike and will probably have easily 100 more, especially with all the work that cudak888 is trying to make me do.

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The handling should be fine, especially with that short stem (given the slack geometry).
This assumes that the rider is well fitted to it when the saddle is slid forward to compensate the 70-degree ST angle (this somewhat requires a rider with relatively short torso vs. legs). Using a wider bar on a frame like this will I believe be important if the stem length were to grow to say 10cm or longer.


Alignment issues mostly center around having the bike roll straight with no hands at speed, which is generally easy to accomplish. Does a evenly dished wheel center under the fork crown? It centered under the crown on my new 1984 Trek 720, though I had to support the complete bike on benches and then jump on a pair of opposite "diagonal corners" in order to spring it's frame straight for a perfectly straight-riding bike. Yes, I actually did this the day after buying it for half-off (@$460) after the '84 or '85 season ended.
A lot can be gleaned from optical inspection methods, and frames even forks can be successfully straightened roadside using available "architecture".

I still don't see what is wrong with the Campagnolo bb cable guide(?).
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Originally Posted by dddd
The handling should be fine, especially with that short stem (given the slack geometry).
It'll be like an old 1930's English club bike.

Originally Posted by dddd
I still don't see what is wrong with the Campagnolo bb cable guide(?).
The larger Ashtabula BB requires that it sit too far forward. The cable can't reach the FD without rubbing against the frame.

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Originally Posted by Eric F
Maybe?
EDIT: Here's some in better condition... https://www.ebay.com/itm/27582137865...mis&media=COPY

Can't. The S-word? Isn't that a cuss word? I mean if you remove all the vowels, it's a 4-letter word!

Although I'm tempted to at least use a Dura Ace rear quick release, because although it is uglier than the Campy, the Campy is a freakin' boat anchor. Maybe have to ditch them during the 'starvation diet' arc of the build, after the Jun 3-4 event.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I would have been offended had you used Dura Ace. Campy? I'm good.
Will you be more offended if I mix some DA in with the Campy? I can make that happen.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Will you be more offended if I mix some DA in with the Campy? I can make that happen.
You wouldn’t dare.
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Originally Posted by sbarner
It is highly unlikely that this bike will be ridden far enough for comfort to be an issue, making that Books excess baggage. The LeGrande is crying for a ti or carbon railed, plastic saddle of the ass hatchet persuasion. Oh, wait, I guess it is just crying. Still, an ass hatchet may keep the rider from obsessing over the handling.
I went back to try to find this comment because I wanted to address it.

The bike's inagural ride as the mutant spawn will be metric century. Then 37mi the next day, so if we consider that comfort is a major issue, even as soon as eyes spot that 'Huffy Corporation' decal, we will keep the Brooks for now.

But! The Brooks may be getting lost during the 'breatharian conversion' chapter of the build. Besides, I predict about 100 posts to change the seat, so how could I not!?
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
The bike's inagural ride as the mutant spawn will be metric century.
100 meters shouldn’t be too bad.
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Originally Posted by smd4
You wouldn’t dare.



I mean, whily I'm at it I should also probably cut off to toptube and weld it back on at a sloping angle, point the end of the bars at the crankset, and putty up the fork crown to turn it into a unicrown beauty.


With some DOORA-ATCHEY!!
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Originally Posted by smd4
100 meters shouldn’t be too bad.

Centimeters, my friend. Not 'meters'.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Heathen.
Don't. no. Wait. What? You...

You have no idea.

How long I've waited for this comment.

1364.

Thirteen hundred and sixty four posts. That's how long I've waited (so I guess you did have an idea but still).

I've waited so long. And now, finally. Thank you.







(and it was over 'Dura Ace' of all things )



Maybe Dura Ace front hub, Super Record rear? One Dura Ace brake lever, and the other one Campagnolo Super Record? One crank arm Campy, and one Dura Ace?

Mmmmm, possibilities!
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Originally Posted by dddd

I still don't see what is wrong with the Campagnolo bb cable guide(?).

It is ugly and clunky and heavy and hard to get a wrench end on the bolt ends and the chrome cracks as soon as you bend it and you have to bend it to get it on the bike and it is stamped cheapness and dumb.
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It is ugly and clunky and heavy and hard to get a wrench end on the bolt ends and the chrome cracks as soon as you bend it and you have to bend it to get it on the bike and it is stamped cheapness and dumb.
Don’t sugarcoat it. Tell us what you really think.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Don’t sugarcoat it. Tell us what you really think.

Okay! Since you asked, I found that the going rate for these things was about $20-$30, which for an old, usually rusty, piece of stamped steel (nothing special) with sub-par chrome on it - it is crazy. It took signifiant time our of my life to find the right one to match the caliber of the bicycle it was going on, and then when I got it, I immediate saw it was just an old, heavy, stamped steel part, cheaply made, but with 'Campagnolo' written on it which meant that it was going to cost 5x-10x what it was worth, or at least mechanically worth. And that's if it even worked! It doesn't even work on my glorious bike, because the bike has an ever so slightly larger BB shell and the part won't even work with it. It's like Campy didn't even consider that it would be used on other bikes like the Le Grande. Not to mention I had to make not one, but TWO shims for it, after the first shim (whose size worked totally and completely fine with the Campagnolo Super Record shifter set I got - that part is actually good even though it is sort of the same junky pressed steel badly chromed piece that cracks easily just the same - at least it is the right size) turned out to be way too thick for the clamp bolt to even touch the nut, and on top of that I scraped the bike's lovely paint up (original paint, at that) which would never have had to happen if the clamp was the same diameter as the shifter set, which makes no sense why it isn't because they both go on the downtube, they are both from the same era, and they should technically both be going on the same bike. So then I had to open it up again, further cracking the chrome, remove the 'too thick' shim and make a whole new shim, which took hours of my time since Campy couldn't get the diameters the same even though they are meant for the same bike. Then bending it down again further stressed and cracked the chrome and fatigued the metal (and this a brand new 'NOS' part) and this happened the very first time the metal was bent into the normal 'bike tube' shape it would normally go in, but the problem is that it only happens in one spot on the whole band, no matter how hard you try because of the huge stamped piece hanging off the side of it which unevenly distributes the bending forces, even when you are trying so flippin' hard to evenly bend it all the way around, it always wants to bend in just one little spot (around 10 o' clock on the band) - I even fabricated a special setup on my drill press to use as a press to try and get the unevenness and lumpiness out of the bend when it was on the bike, because I tried it while it was on the bike and the lumpiness looked horrible and I started tapping on it with a hammer and almost dented my downtube from trying to do it on the bike. Spending hours and hours trying to work it out and I never got it right. And it took so long to try to match all the weird curves of that thing with a shim - two shims! Which also put wear and tear on my tools and sanding equipment, and gloves, and hands, and polishing equipment, and contributed to the electrical failure of my dremel which them took EVEN MORE time away by forcing me to fix the dremel - either that or throw the dremel away and add to our ever increasing landfill problem because people just throw away stuff when it doesn't work, especially electical stuff like the dremels and I didn't want to be that person so I had to use up even more supples (like electrical energy and my solder and other stuff) to fix the dremel because it broke because it had to make all this shim stuff 2x because Campy couldn't get their tolerances right so basically this Campy clamp put a greater burden on our ozone depletion by having to utilize all the precious electrical resources to fix their tolerance issues (and our 'electric' power in this state is 'coal' powered of all things) AND, with all that said, the little 'hook' part that guides the cable still isn't long enough! So when the cable snakes through to the front derailleur, it will rub all over the seatube, destroying the shifting potential and further damaging the pristine original paint of my beautiful vintage bike. Also it has marred the paint because Campy didn't think about feathering the edges at all. And speaking of the interface, it is super loose and goofy and not round, so no matter what you have to cinch it down so tight to get it to not wobble that no matter what it will end up marring the paint on your beloved bike. In short, this cable guide is putting a hole in the ozone layer, contributing to the great Pacific trash heap, and my kids are growing up without me. I don't like it.

That's all I have to say about that.

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Since when did AdventureManCO become Vintage Schwinn?

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Since when did AdventureManCO become Vintage Schwinn?

-Kurt

Where has he been btw? Course, maybe there is a reason he hasn't really posted in this thread...

...American made...

...heavy boat anchor bike...

Hittin' a little too close to home I reckon.

Oh shoot let's just @ him Vintage Schwinn where you at??
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So I’m getting that you don’t like the clamp.
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I mean, whily I'm at it I should also... point the end of the bars at the crankset...!!
You have just laid down some blasphemous words to smd4. Also, make certain the brake lever hoods are angled upwards and not level with the ground.

A little tease---
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You have just laid down some blasphemous words to smd4. Also, make certain the brake lever hoods are angled upwards and not level with the ground.

A little tease---
.. and now he is making his OWN BAGS?! Jeeebus, does his ingenuity know no bounds?
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Originally Posted by smd4
So I’m getting that you don’t like the clamp.

Ehh it’s not that bad I just think there might be a better way

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