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Old 05-17-23, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Positron400
.. and now he is making his OWN BAGS?! Jeeebus, does his ingenuity know no bounds?
Not my handiwork, but definitely the Le Grandes inspiration (contamination???)

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Originally Posted by Positron400
.. and now he is making his OWN BAGS?! Jeeebus, does his ingenuity know no bounds?
AdventureManCO? A leather bag seamstress? Who knows, but I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Ehh it’s not that bad I just think there might be a better way
There usually is. How about welding a couple guides to the bottom of the BB, on either side of the "H?" Run some teflon tubing from the inside of some brake/shifter housing to smooth things out.

Could be made from some small-diameter cut-down tubing, like below. I found this image here. Pay no attention to the green circle. I mean, if it's OK to obliterate the last "i" In Cinelli...


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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
A little tease---
Now I know that I can't even begin to ask you to make bags for the Moulton...

...without those bags being subjected to the blasphemous "H."

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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh

A little tease---
That is some fine work there, but does bring up the obvious question, doesn't the Huffy already have enough Baggage?
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Originally Posted by smd4
There usually is. How about welding a couple guides to the bottom of the BB, on either side of the "H?" Run some teflon tubing from the inside of some brake/shifter housing to smooth things out.
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I routed the left shift wire under the Ashtabula bb shell on my Varsity because the cable housing stop was broken/missing from the DT.
It made for a big unsightly deviation in the cable path (which normally follows parallel to the DT) because of the huge OD of the bb shell.

The correct fix imo is to use thin plastic sleeve along the cable's path through the guide, and following the cable well up toward the FD, preventing rub on the ST.
You can cap off the upward-pointing ends of the sleeve using shrink tubing so as to exclude dirt/water entry, same as I did in the early mtb days with all of the open housing segments waiting to fill up with dirt. My shrink tubing "umbrellas" moved with the cable, sliding over the smaller diameter cable sleeves. My cables performed far better (and for longer) than most, especially when SRAM/Gripshift cable grease was used!
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pastorbob, et al,
As the newly appointed Inspector I have been holding out on AMCO in my quest to undetectably add weight to the Huffy, while its owner isn't looking. The tungsten bottom bracket adaptor should have added almost a pound that he didn't notice. Heh, Heh, Heh!
and now comes yet another un-needed but desirable bit that AMCO won't be able to resist...

This very cool Campagnolo seat post quick release that adds even more weight to the build while he is not noticing.
Smiles, Inspector Honk

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Originally Posted by smd4
There usually is. How about welding a couple guides to the bottom of the BB, on either side of the "H?" Run some teflon tubing from the inside of some brake/shifter housing to smooth things out.

Could be made from some small-diameter cut-down tubing, like below. I found this image here. Pay no attention to the green circle. I mean, if it's OK to obliterate the last "i" In Cinelli...


Covering up the logo like that!? The Huffy would never be so tasteless!
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Now I know that I can't even begin to ask you to make bags for the Moulton...

...without those bags being subjected to the blasphemous "H."

-Kurt

An 'M' on one side and an 'H' on the other? And it could stand for 'Maybe Huffy?'
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Covering up the logo like that!? The Huffy would never be so tasteless!
I guess it would be difficult for the Huffy to get more tastele…oh, forget it!
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Covering up the logo like that!? The Huffy would never be so tasteless!
I vote for a couple of brazed-on noodles on top of the BB. Of course, this would mean repainting the BB for the 137th time.
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Originally Posted by dddd
I routed the left shift wire under the Ashtabula bb shell on my Varsity because the cable housing stop was broken/missing from the DT.
It made for a big unsightly deviation in the cable path (which normally follows parallel to the DT) because of the huge OD of the bb shell.

The correct fix imo is to use thin plastic sleeve along the cable's path through the guide, and following the cable well up toward the FD, preventing rub on the ST.
You can cap off the upward-pointing ends of the sleeve using shrink tubing so as to exclude dirt/water entry, same as I did in the early mtb days with all of the open housing segments waiting to fill up with dirt. My shrink tubing "umbrellas" moved with the cable, sliding over the smaller diameter cable sleeves. My cables performed far better (and for longer) than most, especially when SRAM/Gripshift cable grease was used!

Ahh, this post wins the debate! You make a reeeeeaally good point about the cable lines with going under the BB shell. No getting around that at all.

Top it is. But I may just rock what I got for now, until I can engineer a good solution. I want it to look dope. I've got some ideas, but I need to spend a little more time on it. I think I will try the 'extended noodle' idea for now, but either braze on a top guide right on the top of the BB shell, or something else.

Huret made that cool clamp that went around both the down tube and the seat tube - I just have no idea if it would actually work for the Huffnago seeing as how the size of the BB shell throws everything out of whack. Hmmmm...


Well, I'll just avoid/denial for now on that, and instead work on the RD hanger. Oh, and I think I need to redo the seatpost. At least part of it. It's nearly 2 inches too high! More on that...maybe tonight. Maybe/

For sure...the fork saga and boy oh boy was it ever one.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I guess it would be difficult for the Huffy to get more tastele…oh, forget it!

Hey! Say what you want but it has better brazing than my Raleigh. Actually, it has better brazing than everyone's Raleigh
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Hey! Say what you want but it has better brazing than my Raleigh. Actually, it has better brazing than everyone's Raleigh
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I vote for a couple of brazed-on noodles on top of the BB. Of course, this would mean repainting the BB for the 137th time.

Yes, that idea did come up in a recent phone conversation I had. They way it was suggested to me was also similar - 'So, why don't you just torch it and repaint? I mean, you've already done it what 4 times? Wouldn't really be a big deal'

I guess he is right, and I found another one of those white spray cans lol


But I have an idea brewing that will accomplish the same thing, but won't involve more brazing. What it WILL involve is more bottom bracket pictures...






Since we are nearing critical mass on that particular front, I do need to alert @Mad Honk and @cudak888 because I might need a timeout.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Huret made that cool clamp that went around both the down tube and the seat tube - I just have no idea if it would actually work for the Huffnago seeing as how the size of the BB shell throws everything out of whack.
I have the Huret clamp on my ‘77 Nishiki. I think the engorged girth of the Huffster’s BB would make it a no-go.
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
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As the newly appointed inspector I have been holding out on AMCO in my quest to undetectably add weight to the Huffy, while its owner isn't looking. The tungsten bottom bracket adaptor should have added almost a pound that he didn't notice. Heh, Heh, Heh!
and now comes yet another un-needed but desirable bit that AMCO won't be able to resist...

This very cool Campagnolo seat post quick release that adds even more weight to the build while he is not noticing.
Smiles, Inspector Honk

Nooooooooooooooooooooo not more WEIGHT!!!

We've already been on the slim fast diet and you just keep throwing candy bars at her!!! lol That thing looks pretty cool. And tempting. Like the Twix bar of the Campy world!

And like a girl fresh from a breakup watching soaps and having someone hand her an open ice cream container, she ain't gonna say 'no'

Oh, and I know about the tungsten when when I shaved off about 1/3 of those adapter cups and ran into it!
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I have the Huret clamp on my ‘77 Nishiki. I think the engorged girth of the Huffster’s BB would make it a no-go.
You just called her butt fat and she heard you.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
You just called her butt fat and she heard you.
I like a curvy girl.

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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
An 'M' on one side and an 'H' on the other? And it could stand for 'Maybe Huffy?'
More likely Mad Honk!!
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
You just called her butt fat and she heard you.
Or as Chunky A would say: A rather large gluteus, or a big ol' ghetto butt for those of you who are new to dis!
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Alright foks, by now I know what you want: gratuitous violence toward either the Huffy or me, in the form of uselessly torturing myself through pointlessly complex modifications to a bike that never should have been in the running, wasting my precious and valuable time (and yours, by extension). This time around you'll get both. I think the bike knows whats going on here, and is laughing at me.

Welcome to the Fork Saga.

When it is over, you will breathe a sign of relief, not for me but for yourself, as you delightfully remember that you are not me, and you can simply enjoy the carnage from afar, without having to be wounded, neither physically, emotionally, nor mentally. I know this, and it is why I try to drag you down with me as much as I possible can. By the end of the saga, you're gonna like the way you feel about yourself, I guarantee it.





First thing up was the fork crown race. Simple enough...




A good press fit, with about 1 1/2 wraps of the brass shim strip. Locked in w/ a little cryanoacrylate.


Too simple, in fact. It was going too easy. I should have known. But I'm gonna take what I can get with this bike, so of course I'm oblivious to what's to come.



Even the power of the sandals couldn't save me this day...


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Goals:

Install crown race - check
Clean headset parts
Install headset adapter cups
Install headset cups
Grease and put it all togther
Feel directionless and apathetic at the mere completion of the next major stage of the build


Now that the fork was sorted, it was time to turn out attention to the next major obstacle - the headset cups.

Now, I'm not dumb (well, yes I am, for building this clown show of a bike) and I remember the major brain damage that the bottom bracket was, simply due to tolerances. So I'm going to make double sure that I'm ON IT w/ the measurements to make this headset install go PERFECT.


Thanks to Macguyver909 , the headset cups go in w/ zero issues -





Next up is cleaning this bad boy -




Now, I would say that I have a bit of a 'normie' view on Campagnolo aka 'What's the big deal?' or 'Wait, it's how much for that old, worn out, rusty, HEAVY steel whatchamawhatever?'

But, the headset is nice. It is very smooth, I was pretty impressed with it. Except the crown race - that thing is a lead weight.


Now come the fun part - headset cups. Whoohoo!

Now, as mentioned previously, we really want to take things slow and make sure that we don't have a repeat failure on the headtube, because that would be, as they say, 'less than ideal'. And there is a lovely seam running down that headtube that I'm sure would just laugh in my face if I split it open. So, let's take some measurements, shall we?





Huh. Hmmm, yeah, about that. Isn't the one, that one, yeah? Supposed to be uh, smaller, and the, the one, the other one, um, supposed to, yeah, know, um, larger?






Oh boy. Now we get to have some fun.


Fortunately, my handy dandy oscillating spindle sander, that was never really meant to turn Huffys into Huffnagos is put into action.

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Install crown race - check
Clean headset parts - check
Install headset adapter cups - check
Install headset cups
Grease and put it all togther
Feel directionless and apathetic at the mere completion of the next major stage of the build

So, I pull the cups, and realize that I better take things a bit slow so that we don't crack anything else.















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