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Old 05-27-23, 03:49 AM
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Yes, I painted the back of the brake bridge earler today after scratching it up quite a bit getting the slot opened up for the adapter. Looks better than new (which is not hard)



Dirty brakes! Don't have a nice pictures of all the pieces cleaned up and ready to go, but they are all nice and shiny now!





Mucho thanks to Mad Honk for getting me here, and providing the foundation for a great part. Now with that said, he might yell at me now for cutting it down, but I had this idea in mind and wanted to try it first. I like it, I think it will work okay. Given the leveraged support this piece has, I don't think it should be of great concern.
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Oh yeah, noticed this and took care of it...








The funniest part about all this is that I think the rear triangle is out-of-whack. You know, just the 'basic' out of whack, where one seat/chainstay is slightly more off to one side than the other side is, in relation to the seat tube. That's like 'bicycle checking 101' and I've spent 150+ hours tweaking, bending, twisting, cleaning, brazing, and building this thing and I don't think I ever checked it lol
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I'll end tonight (this morning???) with these two pictures, showing I've got a rolling chassis, but not giving too much away






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Wouldn't it be a hoot if the Le Grande takes some type of award at the concourse?

Not holding my breath. But I will laugh my azzz off if that happens!
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Originally Posted by Hondo6
Wouldn't it be a hoot if the Le Grande takes some type of award at the concourse?

Not holding my breath. But I will laugh my azzz off if that happens!
My guess, and this is only a guess based on many years of observing human nature, is that there will be a sub-set of people who find it humorous and provocative, and there will be another set of people who are borderline angered by it as it doesn't and never could fit into their rigid boxes of pre-conceived notions regarding the art of the bicyle. Somewhere in between there will be people ranging from the only mildly interested to the seriously indifferent. I think it's a fascinating sociopathic, uh, I mean socio-pychological, experiment.
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Originally Posted by Maxey
I think it's a fascinating sociopathic, uh, I mean socio-pychological, experiment.

Haha, well, ya know...one would have to be a little crazy to go the lengths I have gone, for what amounts to a throwaway-quality bicycle. Hours and hours, away from family. I was up til 4:30am last night. I will be glad when the bulk of the work is done and I can just look at it (and be reminded of how much of my life I threw away on it).

But I tend to do deep dives on whatever is holding my attention. I don't really do things halfway. The problem is, I never really remember this when I first get interested in a project

Today is going to be a good day. Polishing up the frame, then I will re-mount the shifters. Then polish the seatpost bits and re-install seat.

Big project is going to be the rear cable stop. We'll see how that goes!
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Haha, well, ya know...one would have to be a little crazy to go the lengths I have gone, for what amounts to a throwaway-quality bicycle. Hours and hours, away from family. I was up til 4:30am last night. I will be glad when the bulk of the work is done and I can just look at it (and be reminded of how much of my life I threw away on it).

But I tend to do deep dives on whatever is holding my attention. I don't really do things halfway. The problem is, I never really remember this when I first get interested in a project

Today is going to be a good day. Polishing up the frame, then I will re-mount the shifters. Then polish the seatpost bits and re-install seat.

Big project is going to be the rear cable stop. We'll see how that goes!
How do you get the onset paint looking so crisp? Like on the FD and shifters?

And Dave hot a homer on that brake adapter.
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The red-trimmed Campy bits look amazing. Your workmanship is laudable, so even though I tease a little, it's really my way of showing admiration for this madcap exercise.
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Originally Posted by Maxey
The red-trimmed Campy bits look amazing. Your workmanship is laudable, so even though I tease a little, it's really my way of showing admiration for this madcap exercise.
Yeah. All of this ^^^.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
How do you get the onset paint looking so crisp? Like on the FD and shifters?

And Dave hot a homer on that brake adapter.

Ask an expert...lol


The wisdom I was given was to use a toothpick and possibly thin the paint, and that's exactly what I did. As you can see from other photos, some of the paintwork wasn't exactly 'neat', but when the paint is thin enough, capillary action takes care of the rest. The front derailleur was tricky, because its over such a large curve, that I wanted the paint to 'run', but not run so much as to run down to the very ends via gravity, an out of the inset area. I had to apply that thinly and carefully, and probably re-apply about 10 times to allow it to thicken up in thin layers, and keep building up the centery in my attempt to combat gravity. It worked well!

The shifters were actually a little more tricky, and if you look reeeeeally closely, they are not perfect, but good enough. The thin paint ran around the inset, but in some instances, various inconsistencies in the metal stopped the capillary action and then the paint would puddle or dry and create a dam that would block the rest of the capillary action. Had to redo a couple of them a few times. Came out alright in the end.


EDIT: Yes, grateful for Mad Honk !! The bike will wear a 'crap' (as in 'Box 'O Crap) sticker with pride which, I suppose, has other connotations


2nd EDIT: I'll look - I might have some pictures 'in process' of the detail paintwork. But anyone who does scale models would have a finer touch than me!
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Originally Posted by Maxey
The red-trimmed Campy bits look amazing. Your workmanship is laudable, so even though I tease a little, it's really my way of showing admiration for this madcap exercise.

At first my brain read this as laughable and I thought - not so far off!

But I appreciate the compliment - undeserved, but I'll take it!
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Originally Posted by Hondo6
Wouldn't it be a hoot if the Le Grande takes some type of award at the concourse?

Not holding my breath. But I will laugh my azzz off if that happens!

I sort of wish they had a 'maximum shock value' category, either good or bad. It'd be in the bag

They do have a 'People's Choice' award, but I'm not worried about any of that stuff. I just want to meet people, talk about the bike (and other bikes), and I think I'm going to bring a notepad or print some sheets out or something and ask people for their reactions and folks write them down.
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They do have a 'People's Choice' award, but I'm not worried about any of that stuff.
C'mon, man - tell the truth. If you end up with the "People's Choice" award for the Le Grande, you'll be both tickled pink and (justifiably) proud as hell. It's turned out great.

And if I'm reading you right, in that case you'll probably laugh your azzz off too.
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Alright, what's your guys' favorite method of determining chain length for this vintage equipment? And is there a preferrable length to get it to run well? Do you cross-chain from the largest chainring to the largest cog and go max? Or something else?

Chain will be getting on at some point soon and I'd like to get that right. Thanks guys!
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The little touches make the big difference.






Doing some paint infilling on the seatpost parts. I realize I still never made a 'seatpost' post, but part of that is because I cheated and robbed parts from another seatpost so the tutorial might look something like...

1. Rob parts from other seatpost
2. Make seatpost

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Alright!!!

We're getting this thing attached! One last step before mounting, and that is to bend this little tab in to fully mechanically secure the stainless guide tube to the clamp on guide.







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Yessssssssss first cable ran! The FD mount was a complete success!

In honor of the first cable on the bike and in order to fully celebrate the occasion, time to give the bike it's first sticker...







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Oh snap. Things just got real
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Wait a minute! Did I see a LeGrande piano in that shot?
Dave, I was not in favor of the brake extender being thinner to fight off aluminum fatigue. And of course so as not to test my liability insurance coverage. However since you have modified the part I am claiming that it is not a defect in materials or workmanship, and that the owner is solely liable for failure. It looks like the original bridge plate may still be partially effective in preventing the part from failure. When, or even if, you ever ride it be sure your health insurance is paid up.
Many nice touches in the build so far. You may likely get an award for having the only Lexan stand in the show.
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I keep imagining how it would look with the campagnolo logo on the shifter clamp painted red. This might just be gilding the lily and/or it might push you over the edge!
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
Wait a minute! Did I see a LeGrande piano in that shot?
Dave, I was not in favor of the brake extender being thinner to fight off aluminum fatigue. And of course so as not to test my liability insurance coverage. However since you have modified the part I am claiming that it is not a defect in materials or workmanship, and that the owner is solely liable for failure. It looks like the original bridge plate may still be partially effective in preventing the part from failure. When, or even if, you ever ride it be sure your health insurance is paid up.
Many nice touches in the build so far. You may likely get an award for having the only Lexan stand in the show.
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Yes, and I completely understand. I hope that your concern is unfounded, but we won't really know until the bike has some miles under it in it's new clothes. Since these tubular rims don't really have great braking surfaces anyway, I'm hoping the actual braking force isn't enough to put stress on that part haha. I do sincerely appreciate the part, however, since it was one thing I didn't have to make from scratch, like so many other little doodads.

Another of this ridiculous project's main supporters voiced some concern over the durability of the seatpost as well. While I do sincerely hope that nothing fails while riding it, a failure does indicate a data point and is instructive. We don't know the limits of something until we surpass them. At that point we can re-evaluate and either change parts or do something different, incorporate design changes, etc.
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Yes, and I completely understand. I hope that your concern is unfounded, but we won't really know until the bike has some miles under it in it's new clothes. Since these tubular rims don't really have great braking surfaces anyway, I'm hoping the actual braking force isn't enough to put stress on that part haha. I do sincerely appreciate the part, however, since it was one thing I didn't have to make from scratch, like so many other little doodads.

Another of this ridiculous project's main supporters voiced some concern over the durability of the seatpost as well. While I do sincerely hope that nothing fails while riding it, a failure does indicate a data point and is instructive. We don't know the limits of something until we surpass them. At that point we can re-evaluate and either change parts or do something different, incorporate design changes, etc.
Sounds as if you've been channeling Elon Musk and SpaceX.

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