georges1

yes, indeed

jamesdak 

? Is that place even legit?

SurferRosa

They're all right. But the offshoots, Peter Murphy and Love and Rockets ... fantastic!

Drillium Dude

DD

Bianchigirll 

I don't look down my nose at other people's bikes, I let my bike do it for me



Funny video. Cyclist not waving back has been a big pet peeve of mine for yours, and I in part blame 'brifters'. I think new riders who never had other shifters are just afraid to take their hands off the bars.

stoneageyosh

Not everyone that doesn’t return a wave is a snob. If you are referring to riders in a pack or paceline they should be paying attention to the rider(s) in front and around them. The riders in front are responsible for safely navigating the group around overtaken riders and road hazards and if they raise a hand it is to point out which side it is on while also calling out what it is, car, rider, rock, etc.
When I was on a solo training ride my focus would be on the road ahead and things that can now be monitored electronically. A lot of things taking concentration along with urban traffic wasn’t conducive to being social. If I was considered a snob in that phase of my life so be it.

Atlas Shrugged

Yes it’s those fancy folks with their new fangle carbon bikes and stretchy clothing that are the snobs! They ride around with the 1,000 yard stare induced by big bikes brainwashing refusing to acknowledge or genuflect those wised old souls.

Drillium Dude

Dayum, there are a number of members here that would do well to heed Duckie's sage advice:



DD

merziac

So you may be a new "old" guy, I don't train or ride hard but I do ride a lot and even here in bike Portland most riders don't return a wave here any more at all.

It's about 10 to 1 IMO but I did have a return wave today, first in a long time.

I also employ thumbs up as well but it doesn't get much either.

The other thing is if you are a rockin, racin, trainin, pedalin machine, you should have the skilz to ackknowledge your fellow riders when they extend a courtesy to you, just sayin.

Drillium Dude

Nice pic!

Thank you for posting. That photo brought back memories of my visit to Paris in 1994, although I cannot recall any of the exterior of CP being painted in primary colors during my visit there. That could be partly because I visited in February. The weather was cloudy, grey, rainy - and freakin' cold as well!

My travel-mate and I still braved the ascent to Le Tour Eiffel's observation deck at 8pm, and enjoyed taking in the breathtaking night-time panorama of The City of Lights. Good times

DD

Drillium Dude

I've noticed that chainstay sticker on a number of the bikes you've shared pics of, but have never thought to ask where you got them. This thread provides the perfect opportunity to inquire: where can I find one?

Thank you in advance

DD

Drillium Dude

Back where I used to live, the popular vernacular for this kind of thing in general was (still is) referred to as 'The Seattle Freeze' - and it's a true phenomenon.

I think it's just a lot of people in a smallish space going about their business, doing what they do. Me? I always return a wave, even if I don't always initiate one.

Either way, I'm easy; sometimes I'm out on the bike, just trying to take my mind off things. I suspect others are lost in their own world in the same general sense - both on and off the bike. But I feel ya, Van.

DD

merziac

Agreed, and my takeaway is my own shortcomings that I don't think about it as much so I'm guilty of it too as it comes to pass.

Atlas Shrugged

As seen by the other rider.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/fgwv.gif

bikingshearer 

Grant Petersen and Rivendell has never stated or hinted that "racers are the enemy." The entire point is that most cyclists are not racers, so bikes designed for racing may not make sense to most riders. Grant Petersen's ultimate message is to make informed decisions about your bike purchases based on the kind of riding you want to do. If you want to race, get a bike meant for racing. I am quite certain Grant will not begrudge you the purchase. If you don't race but like the feel and geometry of a racing bike, go get one. I am quite certain Grant will not begrudge you that purchase, either. But if you want something more upright and more all-day comfy, why buy what a Europro rides, with its emphasis on going faster than the vast majority of us will ever go at the expense of comfort? Yes, he makes a living selling non-racing bikes. But that doesn't make his position any less legit. And he must be on to something, because a fair number of things he's been saying and selling for years have caught on with other operations as well.

And no, I don't think Grant Petersen regrets what he started. Why should he?

Drillium Dude

I loled - but that's not really accurate. Have you ever seen MC riders acknowledge one another? Most waves I give - and receive - are similar: subtle, not spastically delivered.

As always: YMMV.

DD

52telecaster

There are kickstands that don't crush your chainstays.

Atlas Shrugged

I am presently on a extended bike tour in Vietnam and that’s subtle compared to my reaction when seeing a fellow rider on the road!

Drillium Dude

Okay, now that's funny

And what a cool destination for a bike tour! Have fun, and safe travels for the duration of your adventure

DD

Bianchigirll 

Believe it not Bianchi USA, now Bianchi North America, was selling them around 2010. I’m not sure if anyone else makes something similar these days. Maybe I should learn to use my Sister’s Circut and learn to make stuff like this

bark_eater 

Yea, I heard Nino's In Oyster Bay shut down.

Trakhak

In humiliation, no doubt.

bark_eater 

Naw, I heard he retired back to Sicily after keeping the mongrel hoard fed for 40 years.

steelbikeguy

to wander a bit further from the topic... I'll wave to motorcyclists while riding bikes; especially if it is out on the rural roads where nobody else is near. Some wave back and some don't, but what intrigues me is that they are much more likely to wave back when I'm riding a recumbent. I'm not sure if 'bents are just weird and harmless, or if the body position is more similar to a motorcycle and therefore closer to being in their tribe.
.. of course, 'bents just get all sorts of weird reactions, so maybe I'm reading too much into it?

and on the topic of snobbery and "us vs. them", today's Pearls Before Swine comic was quite relatable ...




Steve in Peoria

1989Pre

Waving Immunity:

Regarding waving? Wow. There are so many possible scenarios. Here's one: A rider is going the other way. We are both doing about 22mph on the flat. He waves. I haven't seen him yet (or cared to look up). I'm lost in a reverie of a B-52's song in my mind, working some alternate lyrics into it. The rider sees that there is no response from me. I look up and see her for a split second before she passes and I wave. No response (she had no time to respond, and has already waved). Should we both feel cheated? Ignored? If you wave to a tree in the woods and no one is there to witness it, did it ever really happen?
I think the real issue is a spiritual one: We can't allow ourselves to become jaded in life. Your generosity might not always be requited, but it is always worth trying, in the long run.