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Old 04-24-23, 06:26 AM
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Brake pads & holders for Nuovo Record

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A while back I got a set of Velo Orange pads and holders for my Nuovo Record brakes, which came to me with bad non original pads. I've never really been thrilled with how they feel and curious about trying something better. Kool-Stop is my usual go-to and I see below listed for the Super Record, but strangely they only seem to shop from Europe and are somewhat pricey. I'm not massively wound up on originality here, want good brakes. Any tips?

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977
https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-KS-.../dp/B00JZK2ABI
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If I didn’t have holders for my Campy brakes, I’d get these.

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Very cool! But I'm not having much luck finding them, any tips? Presume they are still in production?

I see other models here, but listed out of stock https://store.biketouringnews.com/brands/Scott-SBR.html
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I got mine from Porkchop BMX. The Contact them. Maybe they are not on their website.
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Good idea - they said they don't have them at the moment but parts are expected in with no given eta...
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Good idea - they said they don't have them at the moment but parts are expected in with no given eta...
Dave can sort you out.

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Question - are those Mathausers recently made or decades old? If old I'd worry about the rubber hardening.

My simple take on C&V brakes - if you actually ride the bike, put on real stoppers so the bike stays C&V and doesn't become re-cycling material. I'd buy good old CoolStops in whatever version mounted correctly on the calipers, looks be danged.
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This is what you need. My recommendation is buy them in the black color, for originality.

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977


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merziac ,
As you know, I needed a number of sets for my personal use so I contacted Kool Stop and they set me up as a dealer for the products. I have a biz license so it worked out ok on both sides. The only request for me was to hold the price of pads to MSRP which is normally $25 per set. Some of the other products are pre-carded and the price is higher on those. But the carded sets are more exotic and are package in pairs, and still have $25 MSRP. The Mathauser carriers can be re-loaded with the Campy style pads. These are the products I have on hand for the replacements:

Pad replacement sets of 4 in both colors cost is $25 and are in stock.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
Question - are those Mathausers recently made or decades old? If old I'd worry about the rubber hardening.

My simple take on C&V brakes - if you actually ride the bike, put on real stoppers so the bike stays C&V and doesn't become re-cycling material. I'd buy good old CoolStops in whatever version mounted correctly on the calipers, looks be danged.
Mathauser is making current production Campagnolo form factor pads, a bit of a trick to find, one can buy direct but do not expect a screaming deal.
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merziac ,
As you know, I needed a number of sets for my personal use so I contacted Kool Stop and they set me up as a dealer for the products. I have a biz license so it worked out ok on both sides. The only request for me was to hold the price of pads to MSRP which is normally $25 per set. Some of the other products are pre-carded and the price is higher on those. But the carded sets are more exotic and are package in pairs, and still have $25 MSRP. The Mathauser carriers can be re-loaded with the Campy style pads. These are the products I have on hand for the replacements:

Pad replacement sets of 4 in both colors cost is $25 and are in stock.
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I must admit the salmon I have found work better but not for the concours judges, or Coffeehouse snobs.

they work better as they seem to pick up less aluminum debris. I really do not like the sound of aluminum embedded in the pads scraping against the rims. I live atop a 14% grade if I take the short way down to the flatlanders.
a signal at the bottom of the grade is always it seems Red.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Mathauser is making current production Campagnolo form factor pads, a bit of a trick to find, one can buy direct but do not expect a screaming deal.
Good to know. Thank you.

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I must admit the salmon I have found work better but not for the concours judges, or Coffeehouse snobs.

they work better as they seem to pick up less aluminum debris. I really do not like the sound of aluminum embedded in the pads scraping against the rims. I live atop a 14% grade if I take the short way down to the flatlanders.
a signal at the bottom of the grade is always it seems Red.
Coffeehouse snob here. I prefer a full dark roast But I go both ways on pads..
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
Question - are those Mathausers recently made or decades old? If old I'd worry about the rubber hardening.

My simple take on C&V brakes - if you actually ride the bike, put on real stoppers so the bike stays C&V and doesn't become re-cycling material. I'd buy good old CoolStops in whatever version mounted correctly on the calipers, looks be danged.
They are new. I bought them last year and they have the same material as Koolstops. A really nice replacement for Weinmann center pulls btw.

edit: I don’t think the op has holders.
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Well if the holders are missing the options change. But the brake pads are still KS:

The international KS's original model but still a very good brake block. $25 per pair

Continental doesn't need a brake block but still a good KS brand. $20 per pair
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Thanks. I do not have any backers. I am using these: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...dge-road-shoes

I am looking for better braking. If you think one of the options above would be an improvement, please recommend which ? I am using new Pacenti Brevet rims and old Nuovo Record brakes.
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Thanks. I do not have any backers. I am using these: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...dge-road-shoes

I am looking for better braking. If you think one of the options above would be an improvement, please recommend which ? I am using new Pacenti Brevet rims and old Nuovo Record brakes.
You can change the pads on those, black or orange Kool Stops would probably work better than the ones you have.
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Originally Posted by somebikeguy
Thanks. I do not have any backers. I am using these: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...dge-road-shoes

I am looking for better braking. If you think one of the options above would be an improvement, please recommend which ? I am using new Pacenti Brevet rims and old Nuovo Record brakes.
Kool Stop make a replacement pad for the holders you have. They come in three flavors Black, Salmon, and dual compound of both colors. Likely better braking than what you currently have. PM me and let me know what you are seeking as a replacement. I can order any item on the Kool Stop International web page. Look around and send me a note and I will order them for you. About two days to get them here and then postal time to you. LMK, MH
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As you are are already set up as a vendor, does KS allow you to do drop ship or will call? I ask as I pass within a mile of KS often. Closest shop that carrys their products always has a limited supply and I refuse to buy them from the Gray Truck Mafia. I’d prefer you get the money than Jeff.
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Thanks. I do not have any backers. I am using these: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...dge-road-shoes
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You can change the pads on those, black or orange Kool Stops would probably work better than the ones you have.
These are what I recall using in those holders:
https://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?i...m_id=KS-DURADL
https://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?i...m_id=KS-DURASA

Alternatively, this is a terrific deal if one also needs holders:
https://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?i...item_id=KS-RHD

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I am looking for better braking. If you think one of the options above would be an improvement, please recommend which ? I am using new Pacenti Brevet rims and old Nuovo Record brakes.
As mentioned by others above, the salmon kool stop pads (in the holder of your choice) will get you closest to the limits of what those calipers can do. Fresh cables and cleaned/lubed caliper pivots will allow you to transmit your best effort from the levers.
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Thanks MH - sent a PM
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Mad Honk - let me know if you’ll have something? Ideally I’d like to have the bike set up in advance of a long ride I’m going Sunday May 7. Thanks.
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Mad Honk - let me know if you’ll have something? Ideally I’d like to have the bike set up in advance of a long ride I’m going Sunday May 7. Thanks.
5/7, the "original Pasadena vintage ride"
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somebikeguy,
Kool Stop shipped out a couple of days ago, I am hoping to have the parts here by Monday at the latest. They should be on the way to you as soon as I get them. Smiles, MH
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