Two frames and two questions
 

Hi friends!

I have chance to buy two : one frame and one bike.
but i gave question. Now i cant post photo,because i need 10 posts

The bike is Cerliani. All what i find ,its small italian who make bike for colnago at 70th. But i cant find any in internet ((

The frame question. Frame with hearts on it, and i read thread here many years ago and cant understand what it is((

Of course its better with photos...

Welcome to the forums, sounds interesting, yes photos are very helpful. You can post photos to you profile, create an album and put in the photos and then we can help with pics until you have 10 posts.

I would be careful with comments like this and that brand made Colnagos as it might or might not be the case. Cerliani is a bike shop in Desio, Italy. There is almost nothing about them on the web, but they still exist. My guess is at some point they might have sponsored racers or teams or at least had their name on jerseys.
Interestingly, I found a result sheet of the 2008 Bugno Gran Fondo, with the results of a gentleman called Gianni Motta for the team GS CERLIANI DESIO, must be a coincidence.

Thanks. If i understand right...i create two albums. With bike and with uknown frame.
Now!! Help me!))))))))

SOrry mate,it just what i find in some forums,only rumors of course...

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No worries, it was rather a joke pointing at how many of such urban legends exist, my bad for not phrasing better or adding a smiley.

Can you please crop all the black stuff off the photos before uploading? Or if those are copied from other people, get the original photos.

Do you have a fork that went with the frame? Photos?

I think a few different companies used hearts in the cutouts, in part because it matches the shape of the lugs.

Can you make out the brand on the dropouts?

I make screenshots from photos what he send to me and not downloaded((
Fork with blue frame is pinarello.
its all photos what i have((

color me "confused": are you saying the blue frame is a Pinarello? What makes you think so?
The red "Cerliani" is not a marque I ever saw before, but at least it has "Colnago" branded DOs and forkends, but not the Prugnat lugs on most Colnagos, and it seems to have remnants of a Columbus tubing decal (which OP should take a close-up of)

This thread is going to get fun as soon as somebody decides they need to quote the entire pic thread to add a one line comment.

I think the Cerliani has marks of a front end crash damage on the down tube (circular paint damage near the shifters). I would inspect it and fork closely.

Blue fork is Pinarello,not frame.

did not see any pix of a fork along with the (forkless) blue frame...but you should soon have the 10 count you need to start posting pix directly and maybe that will help.

The Cerliani to me seems the better-built frame. Any frame crash damage notwithstanding.

[MENTION=566388]Tuki_[/MENTION] the Cerliani is most likely a Colnago ECO CDX, Colnagos cheaper club racer. If Cerliani bought them for their team or Colnago sponsored them is a big ?
Was thinking about Colner and Colnago Sport but the ones I have pictures on hand are different and dont have colnago dropouts. Fine and rare stuff but the collector value might be lower than any Colnago.

Are you the buyer or the seller of it?

I thinking to buy,mate.
Thank you for your help all

https://i.ibb.co/s3vdwMY/Screenshot-20230519-113911.png
Find something in italian calendario
G.S. Cerliani Colnago and address
Strange))))

Okay, while the "alternative Colnagos are rather rare especially in nice shape, they are mostly less valuable than 'legit' Colnagos. Also I would get a good sleep before considering 70k for an Aelle tubed frame which had a frontal. You definitely want to have more pictures on the downtube from the bottom side to see if the tube is wrinkled there.

Yes, as I said earlier they have or had some kind of team, and on google maps you can clearly see that the shop sells Colnago as well:

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